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2014 NFL off-season thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Mizzougrad96, Feb 6, 2014.

  1. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    OK, I will return to my larger point that of his 27 games, take away the three against one very defensively challenged opponent and you're left with a mixed bag. You're not left with a $20 million-a-year quarterback, especially when you can stand pat and get the same guy for $10 million a year for the next two years.
     
  2. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    And you went right back to the same flawed methodology that Michael_Gee was talking about, removing the guy's best games to make your evaluation.
     
  3. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    They all have one significant thing in common in that case, oop. Think hard about it. Anyway, feel free to insult my reading comprehension here, I won't be re-engaging you.
     
  4. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    To Michael -- the teams of Brees, Brady and Manning have had a combined total of three single-digit performances in the last four years.

    Kaepernick's team had three in two months.

    We're talking about whether you want to break the bank for the guy, two years before it's necessary. I don't think his performance so far comes close to a "yes" on that.
     
  5. Mark2010

    Mark2010 Active Member

    Fair enough. He's not a superstar. Not yet, anyway.
     
  6. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Think hard about it? Now you are stealing material from 93Devil? Speaking of things one should think hard about.

    Michael explained why the method is flawed. Really, it is an attempt by you to manipulate the numbers in a way that supports your argument rather than make a fair evaluation of the player.
     
  7. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    LTL's point is a good and very valid one... Kaepernick owns the Packers, and two of his best games have been against them.

    I'd like to see more of that before I'd pay him the salary of an elite QB.
     
  8. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Unless you break down the performances of every other quarterback you compare him to in the same way, the point is not a good one at all.
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    A bad QB with a big salary cap hit is a killer. The Jets went all in on Sanchez on the idea that they made the AFC Championship 2 years in a row.

    I have not spent a lot of time on the math but it seems like giving Kaepeernick the money he wants now as opposed to holding him to existing contract would cost
    the 49ers at least 3 other productive players due to salary cap issues.

    A productive QB with low salary is gold in the current make up of The NFL.
     
  10. joe king

    joe king Active Member

    The bottom line is he isn't worth elite QB money, at least not yet. That said, there's a really good chance he'll get it for the same reason Romo and Flacco got paid -- who out there can they get who will be as good or better?
     
  11. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Luck *is* in that group.
     
  12. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I'm surprised we haven't heard more about Cam Newton's contract talks. I'll be curious how much he gets.
     
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