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7 dead, 7 wounded in Santa Barbara shooting rampage

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by mpcincal, May 24, 2014.

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  1. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    That's the problem, Fart. Like YankeeFan, you aren't even bothering to read the posts you are attacking. Go back and read and perhaps even you will understand.

    My point was that the excuse-making is tiresome. And you want a valid point? Here's one. it is utterly ridiculous to even suggest that understanding this murderer's motivations is even close to being as clear as math.

    Want another? Your dismissal of mental disorders such as Asperger's Syndrome is the kind of ignorance that does nothing for this discussion. As another poster wrote about the column we were discussing earlier, there is a valid point to be made in the area of misdiagnoses and mistreatment of children who may or may not actually have a mental disorder, you didn't come anywhere near making it coherently.
     
  2. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Oh, he doesn't want it seen that way, but that is what he is doing when he compares the protection of the First Amendment and the Second Amendment in this context. You may be too dense to realize it or perhaps you just don't want to admit it. I don't really care, but that is exactly what he is doing.
     
  3. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Well, shit, you went and made an absolutely wonderful point there. There goes "incredibly, mind-bendingly, teeth-achingly stupid" as a possibility.
     
  4. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    I'm unsure if it will be a generational thing or not. You just don't see people smoking as much as you used to and you see people recycling more than you used to, and a great reason for this is the school systems teaching that something is bad or good. Then the taught generation starts to sway the balance away from the generation the passes away.

    It might take 20-30 years, but I could see the gun grip loosen slightly.
     
  5. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    I explained myself clearly, oop.
    The system was set up for children developmentally affected or delayed.
    Not some 22-year-old nouveau-riche MAN who throws a violent tantrum because a woman won't drop her drawers for him.
     
  6. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    The NRA -- and its politicians in its back pocket -- have blocked any federal funding of gun studies since 1996. Do more guns equal less crime? Heck, the NRA doesn't want anyone to find out the answer to that question -- lest there be a risk the answer is, "No." (Obama lifted the CDC freeze, but Congress hasn't yet appropriated any money -- and it won't happen anytime soon, not with Republicans in charge in the House.)

    The NRA also was behind a push in states such as Florida to make it a jailable offense for doctors to ask if you had guns in the home. (That's being fought in court -- so far the NRA is losing.) So they don't even want doctors to advise parents, hey, it might be a good idea to lock up your gun when the kids are around. That's a crime!

    Of course, this is all in the name of selling more guns and ammo. And business is good.
     
  7. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Kids, let's all gather 'round and go over what you have to do if you want to be a good human being.

    First of all, smoking's yucky and gives you bad breath and probably will make you very sick some day, so let's not do that. Secondly, we want to make sure that we keep the planet safe, so let's all remember to do our recycling on a regular basis and make sure we conserve energy. And, finally, when we get mad at some people, like good-looking girls who won't give us the time of day, let's all remember to use our words rather than our handguns.
     
  8. Mark2010

    Mark2010 Active Member

    Easy to make fun of this. But this is a deadly serious issue that deserves honest discussion in an attempt to prevent the next incident.
     
  9. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Why do people keep posting that Rodger shot six people?

    What new gun law could have saved the lives of his three roommates?
     
  10. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    Meanwhile, one of our crews is now headed to a home where a 3 year old just shot an 18 month old sibling in the head.

    If I find out the three year old was playing World of Warcraft, I'll be sure to pass that along.
     
  11. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately, we haven't been able to rule that out with you, yet. I know. I'm awful. That was a personal dig. Then again, you've done nothing but engage in personal attacks while failing to offer a coherent argument for my point in your last few points, so it seems appropriate.
     
  12. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    It's probably the 18-month-old's fault for having fingernails. And toenails.
     
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