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7 dead, 7 wounded in Santa Barbara shooting rampage

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by mpcincal, May 24, 2014.

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  1. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    OK, we're not. You think we're in the height of the liberal age, you go ahead and think that.

    I'll set aside your dragging of slavery into the matter, since the original sin of America seems to transcend, in my opinion, easy labels of conservative or liberal.
     
  2. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    I agree.

    Capitalism is pushing the envelope again and again, and it will break sooner or later.

    Everything we argue about in America comes down to money. If you don't think this isn't about money and greed, well, it's about money.
     
  3. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Solution to what? Curbing mass murder? Precogs.

    Seriously, I don't think there is a tipping point. This is America today. There's a lot to love and not love about it.
     
  4. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    Not quite following here. Money appears to be the one thing this lunatic DID have going for him. How did money cause this one?
     
  5. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Bob Knight said once that the greatest word in the English language is "no." The worst is "yes."

    Once you have said "yes," it is very difficult to change it to a "no." But you can always change a "no" to a "yes."

    We have said "yes" too many times to guns, and changing that to a "no" is going to be very hard to do.

    I think some of the more insane weapons, though, will start to be outlawed and possibly a national registration system for all weapons will come, but that won't be for another 20-30 years.

    We will always have guns, but what we allow now borders on the insane.
     
  6. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    How is the NRA getting its funding?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/19/seven-facts-about-the-u-s-gun-industry/

    Almost a billion in profits and $11.7 billion in sales.
     
  7. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    Well I, of course, know the NRA's power derives from money. But I was under the impression in your prior post (perhaps mistakenly) that you were suggesting that the this tragedy's causes were rooted in money. That's what I didn't get. Some ugly resentments fueled this kid's rage, but financial envy was plainly not one of them.
     
  8. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    I could see that, but the root of all these very loose gun restrictions is tied to the NRA.
     
  9. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    So all the justification you need to ignore a law is the people who passed it died long ago?

    I guess that eliminates most laws.
     
  10. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    The root of all these very loose gun restrictions* is the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States (and related jurisprudence). Have you ever heard of that document? Is there not an SOL that covers that? Or is there simply not enough time in the day, what with all the effort devoted to putting together "Don't smoke" and "Recycle" and "Use words, not guns" assessment rubrics?




    *Is "very loose gun restrictions" antonymous to "rigidly controlled gun freedoms"?
     
  11. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Can you name one nation that has gun laws anywhere near accommodating to gun owners as America?

    If not, then the word "loose" applies.
     
  12. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Your posts are exhibiting an increasing reduction in sagacity and diminishing growth in coherence.
     
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