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7 dead, 7 wounded in Santa Barbara shooting rampage

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by mpcincal, May 24, 2014.

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  1. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2014/05/the-online-life-of-elliot-rodger.html

    http://www.reddit.com/r/cringe/comments/260fod/hes_magnificent_but_no_girl_will_ever_give_him_a/
     
  2. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    I think the point would be that the guy fell into a delusional, misogynistic* spiral -- culminating in his rampage -- because modernity afforded him the luxury to do so.

    I will also suggest that the misogynistic angle has been overplayed here. The guy hated women, true. But this guy hated everyone ...


    *Sheesh that's hard to type.
     
  3. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Everyone has a right to grieve in their own way but
    there is a point where the cable news programs give
    the grievers too much air time and they turn from
    sympathetic to annoying. This trend seemed to
    start with Fred Goldman.

    I blame the news organizations more than the individuals.
     
  4. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    Do you not believe he was gay or at least bi, and overcompensating?
    He was equally angry with men for satisfying others sexually.
    He might have had legitimate sister issues, as well. Listening to your sister have intercourse? Whoa.
    You have to read his diarrheal spew of a manifesto to see some of this.
     
  5. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    In this Internet age, someone video'ing himself or herself driving around isn't so rare.
     
  6. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Besides easy access to three semi-automatic handguns, what critical component to the murders did modernity afford Rodger that a young man in 1914 wouldn't have had?
     
  7. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    1914 killer wouldn't have gotten as far, as fast, in his Model T.
     
  8. BNWriter

    BNWriter Active Member

    As soon as I figure out which are worse -- conspiracy theorists or truthers -- I'll get back to you. Cervenka is just one more idiot on the planet IMHO thanks to this kind of retardation.
     
  9. britwrit

    britwrit Well-Known Member

    But let's dig deeper here. Couldn't these "truthers" be all a plot by the government to discredit those brave patriots who want to speak out about whatever they want to speak about?

    I'm off to post a 40,000-word essay about this on my blog but let's not be asleep to this new threat to our liberties....
     
  10. BNWriter

    BNWriter Active Member

    Britwrit -- Please tell me you are just having a little fun with your question -- Please! Because otherwise, it just throws gas on the fire. I grow very sick & tired of EVERYTHING Being treated as though it has a conspiracy lurking behind it or getting treated like it never happened and the truth has been denied us, but a small group who think they KNOW the truth will ferret it out.

    THE TRUTH IS: These people convinced they have or will seek real truth need either medical attention or a major reality check. Until they get those, they should not even be paid attention to. Why we as a society put up with that kind of thing baffles me.

    OK.....Have at.
     
  11. britwrit

    britwrit Well-Known Member

    Yeah, sorry. I really do have to learn how to use the blue font for my (funny to me but not anyone else) "humor".
     
  12. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    First of all, easy access to three semi-automatic handguns isn't the only thing that enabled Rodger to do what he did. Perhaps it needs repeating that half of the deaths here were deaths by stabbing.

    Second of all, the point raised (and the one I've been pondering) deals with this tragedy as not having a beginning last Friday (or whenever he bought his guns). Rodger lived a life of great comfort and security -- in absolute terms -- even though in relative terms (as compared to those he perceived as his peers) he was a pauper. The point is, therefore, that perhaps our modern life, with the struggle to simply survive all but a distant memory, enables such delusions/pathologies to become far more salient in daily life (for those who suffer from them) than ever before in history.

    It is not very difficult for me to imagine that a Rodger in 1914 (or 1814 or 1714, for that matter) would notice that others had it way better (in whatever way) than did he. It is difficult for me to imagine, however, that a Rodger in those times would have had the time, the freedom or the energy to run with those thoughts.
     
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