All-purpose, running Geek thread (formerly Battlestar Galactica thread)

[JRoyal]

Did they also discuss him wearing the collar/sweater combo? That cracked me up the first time I saw it.

Edit: Googled "The Vision, casual clothes" and found this, so I guess it is based in the comics:

Yeah, I've always thought it was weird when they dressed Vision up in regular clothes, but there is a longstanding precedent for it.

 

[Starman]

Batman Vs Superman has interesting concepts and thematic material (Superman as a metaphor fornUS intervention on foreign soil) that were almost executed in a great way. Then it had concepts that were good on paper and executed like dog shirt: Martha. That could have been a powerful moment for Batman, to realize he was turning into the kind of person he setnout to fight. But it just did not work the way it was played.

Meanwhile, Civil War gave us just as interesting themes to chew on and hit it out of the park.

However, I'm done with the notion of reactions to collateral damage being a major plot point. We got that in both BvS and CW. The outrage at Man of Steel's depiction of destruction during super figuts even had Marvel trying to address it, even though no one complained after Avengers.

But until now, collateral damage was never given more than a few seconds' thought in these types of movies. Now that both sides have had their say, time to move on, we'll assume everybody feels bad when CGI buildings fall down, and just tell the stories they want to tell.

And if the imagery of CGI buildings being destroyed and fictional people dying in mass numbers bothers you, I recommend skipping Independence Day 2.

Over a billion were supposedly killed in ID4 in 1996 and audiences were not traumatized.

Yet the dimwit Zack Snyder ran away in horror from quite scientific estimates which pegged the death toll in "Man of Steel" at approximately 500,000 and explained it in BvS as "a few thousand."

If the events of "MOS" happened in the real world, you would have had half a million dead. 9/11 times about 150. Own it.

 

[Batman]

Over a billion were supposedly killed in ID4 in 1996 and audiences were not traumatized.

Going off on a tangent for a second, this is why Independence Day 2 seems implausible to me. Not the fact that aliens are invading and running wild over the Earth. But, judging from the trailers, it's only been 20 years since nearly every major city on the planet was wiped out -- not just damaged, but completely and utterly obliterated -- and billions died, and already it looks like society is back to some semblance of normalcy? How is that possible?

 

[Starman]

Going off on a tangent for a second, this is why Independence Day 2 seems implausible to me. Not the fact that aliens are invading and running wild over the Earth. But, judging from the trailers, it's only been 20 years since nearly every major city on the planet was wiped out -- not just damaged, but completely and utterly obliterated -- and billions died, and already it looks like society is back to some semblance of normalcy? How is that possible?

I dunno .. I think the explanation is that we back-engineered the alien tech under the direction of David Levinson (Goldblum) and that enabled us to build both awesome kick ass weapons but also rebuild the cities at lightning speed compared to what would have been otherwise possible.

I do remember back when ID4 originally came out part of the storyline was that the aliens' weapons were not radiation-based so all the destroyed cities were not contaminated with radiation and it wouldn't take decades before you could even start to rebuild.

 

[Batman]

I dunno .. I think the explanation is that we back-engineered the alien tech under the direction of David Levinson (Goldblum) and that enabled us to build both awesome kick ass weapons but also rebuild the cities at lightning speed compared to what would have been otherwise possible.

I do remember back when ID4 originally came out part of the storyline was that the aliens' weapons were not radiation-based so all the destroyed cities were not contaminated with radiation and it wouldn't take decades before you could even start to rebuild.

Well, except for Houston. That sumbitch got nuked by us.
There's still a lot of questions about rebuilding, though. Where is the manpower coming from to rebuild? Or to design and build the machines to rebuild? Or simply to clear the debris? Think about the cleanup after 9/11, and that was only a half-dozen buildings. Even if you instantly had the technology available to speed things up (unlikely), and could cut the labor time by 75 percent, the sheer amount of rubble you'd have to remove from hundreds of buildings would still take years to clear.
And, more importantly, how many people would want to rebuild those cities? Figure most of the people who survived were those in smaller towns or rural areas. They're probably quite comfy there. I don't see somebody from an untouched Omaha wanting to pack up and move to the ruins of New York or Los Angeles. Maybe those types of towns are the new metropolises in ID4-2.

 

[outofplace]

Deadpool gets the Honest Trailers treatment.

 

[outofplace]

How the heck do they do that in Stormtrooper costumes?

 

[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

 

[Bradley Guire]

Over a billion were supposedly killed in ID4 in 1996 and audiences were not traumatized.

Yet the dimwit Zack Snyder ran away in horror from quite scientific estimates which pegged the death toll in "Man of Steel" at approximately 500,000 and explained it in BvS as "a few thousand."

If the events of "MOS" happened in the real world, you would have had half a million dead. 9/11 times about 150. Own it.

Regardless of exact death toll figures, the public's fretting over collateral damage has caused some truly cringe-worthy, eye-rolling bits of dialogue and scene setting in both DC and Marvel films ever since people shirt themselves over Man of Steel. It's not necessary. Super-powered beings are fighting. Destruction on a massive scale is given. If these fights were set in wheat fields in the Midwest it would be painfully boring. That would be insane for these movies. Although they stories are becoming more more complex and mature, there still has to be an action scene every 30 minutes.

I'm hoping ID4 Part 2 gleefully wipes out billions again just to pish people off.

 

[Starman]

The destruction is a given, but it's moronic to pretend like it didn't happen.

Metropolis is supposed to be equivalent to NYC. Half of Metropolis was razed to the ground in MOS. To pretend like Snyder that the death toll would have been "a few thousand" is preposterous.

 

[Bradley Guire]

I'm more upset that there was the massive retcon of "By the way, Gotham is just across the river."

NO, IT'S forkING NOT! IT WASN'T THERE LAST TIME!

I think that's more upsetting than Metroplis being in Kansas in Smallville.

 

[Bradley Guire]

Supernatural is fork nuts wacky, The Flash broke my heart two weeks in a row, and I'm just along for the ride with Arrow. I wonder how porting Supergirl to The CW will shake things up next fall?