All-purpose, running Tim Tebow sucks/is a deity thread!

I think the only reason he got away with it was because 1: they were still winning, remaining competitve and not turning the ball over. And 2: They have NO ONE better.
I think reason 2 will change in the offseason.

 

I think they'll ride with him until he completely flames out (can that be very far away?)

He has to be making them a pile of money.

I'll bet my mortgage he's on the Madden cover next year.

 

That's a good question. I do think they'll have patience if you are winning. And that's all Tebow does...well, at least that's all you can say good about his performances most of the time.

 

The difference is quarterbacks who play poorly, lose. Tebow won 7 and brought other skills to the table that weren't passing.

That's what different between him and Leinart or anyone else. Everyone, or most everyone, thinks Tebow is a football player who could play another position, but not an every down NFL quarterback.

He's about the only NFL quarterback you could say that about.

I am in the camp that, given some time and regular practice, he'll get better. What I saw in the KC loss wasn't a terrible quarterback. What I saw was a guy unwilling or unable to pull the trigger for fear of making an error.

Just spitballing but I suspect he's as sick of the media coverage as the next guy.

 

Why is he scared to make an error? Is it because he has reason to believe he WOULD make the error? Didn't the previous two games show that, in these situations, he would make an error?

Interesting stat now that the playoffs are here:

Orton vs. playoff teams: 1-1 (w/Broncos), 2-0 (w/Chiefs), 3-1 overall. He beat the Bengals, Packers and Broncos
Orton vs. non-playoff teams: 0-3 (Broncos), 0-1 (Chiefs), 0-4.

Tebow vs. playoff teams: 0-2
Tebow vs. non-playoff teams: 7-2

Against playoff teams, all Orton does is win baby!

 

I continue to get scourged for a hasty comment.

Listen, I believed the Broncos disrespected the position (and the pro game) by running a Harry Highschool offense early on. I thought it was wrong-headed to hide the quarterback and just pray that he doesn't fuck up. I know that offense became more sophisticated (as sophisticated as one can be with a limited thrower like Tebow operating it), but this remark was made when they were running a single wing almost exclusively.

 

Shit, that never happens here.

 

Only if EA lets the public vote again. Seeing as how they wound up with Peyton Hillis this year, I doubt if EA does it again.

 

I'm not getting into it again, but I do not see Double Down's complaint, at all.

This was a pretty heated dialectic at times, but there weren't any strawmen being put up. The argument was smart and passionate. All good.

And I think we all learned more about football by having this fight.

 

It's like when people get worked up about baseball threads here.

There was a thread about an MVP vote on Journalism Topics, and it turned into a debate over whether Michael Young's contributions could be fairly measured statistically. Someone chimes in, "These baseball threads are worse than political threads!" And another person or two agrees happily.

Myself and a couple others posted back along the lines of, "Really? Just seems like a fun debate to me."

Like you'd have in a sports bar when we were all younger.

 

That playoff game is going to get crazy ratings.

 

What other position could Tebow play? Fullback? Dot know if he can block. Tight end? Doesnt seem fluid enough to beat a linebacker or safety.

As for being a winner, Tim Couch took the Browns to the playoffs an nobody is confusing him as a winner.