And me without my armbands....

Problem is, AQB, it seems this administration is trying to widen the "theater of war" to include anyone they want to include.

 

I'm not going to engage in the semantic debate over the meaning of "atrocities,"
And I don't care what you think about HRW.
Here's a report, anyway.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2005/us0405/4.htm#_Toc101408092

 

The same concepts apply, virtually the same steps must be taken and the same goal is at the heart of the process.

Please do yourself the favor of not disputing that.

 

JR - that's abunch of crap. Just like the flushed Koran stories. And I think you know it.

Just another example of the left willing to believe the worst.

 

Terrorists fighting against our soldiers have no business being tried in a domestic criminal court. None whatsoever.

 

And nobody's arguing that they should be. That's Lou and his list of catchy buzzwords. ("Miranda!" "Hippies!) But there's nothing in our history or our national character that says they ought to disappear into a lawless system run secretly and solely by the executive branch, either.
(And, as regards who's a soldier and who's a terrorist based on how they dress, where do you put the French Resistance?)
I would ask folks why, if they're not torturing people at Gitmo, as the HRW report says they are, why has this administration concocted such an elaborate legal defense of why they can?

 

Just stop. Nobody here is arguing for that and you damned well know it. The question on why we should be honoring the Geneva conventions and the rights this country was founded on during this war was asked and answered. Just because the answer left you no real wiggle room is no reason to start making shit up.

 

Fenian - doesn't it strike you a bit funny that the only country to be listed individually by HWR is the USA? No possible bias there right? China not listed by itself. Cuba not listed by itself. USA though is its own category. According to HWR when it comes to human rights abuses - we are the worst in the world.

I always get a kick out of your "sources".

BTW - the members of the French Resistance knew if they were caught that they would be shot as spies. They knew that. Our enemies don't expect to be shot as spies or as terrorists - they expect to be able to sue for wrongful arrest thanks to folks like you.

 

The Geneva Conventions don't apply to terrorists.

 

But they ... ahhh, hell, just nevermind.

 

AQB,

By definition, terrorists wouldn't fight against our soldiers. Their goal is to "terrorize" and they do so by attacking innocents or infrastructure, not by lining up and plunking soldiers.

 

Try Amnesty International if you don't like HWR. Fairly conclusive evidence there as well. But you can argue the inarguable all you want but it won't change the facts.

Or in your case, you might be more comfortable over at the "Accuracy in Meda"--the always good-for-a-a laugh-site where they refer to Guit as a "country club prison".