Another conservative attack on people with vaginas fails

[Zeke12]

Virginia governor is a political coward:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/02/22/virginia_gov_bob_mcdonnell_changes_his_mind_about_ultrasound_law.html?wpisrc=twitter_socialflow

But he was all all for it three or four days ago, before 1000 angry protesters showed up at the capital Monday.

Maybe he didn't want to go for 10,000.

We call that the Full Walker in the business.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

Virginia governor is a political coward:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/02/22/virginia_gov_bob_mcdonnell_changes_his_mind_about_ultrasound_law.html?wpisrc=twitter_socialflow

""I think it gives full information...To be able to have that information before making what most people would say is a very important, serious, life-changing decision, I think is appropriate."

Did he ever think that maybe the women don't want to be forced into learning about "full information", especially if it's an invasive procedure?

Nope, course not. Women are too fragile to be able to think for themselves about whether or not they want to undergo a medical procedure.

 

[franklin lincoln]

Virginia governor is a political coward:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/02/22/virginia_gov_bob_mcdonnell_changes_his_mind_about_ultrasound_law.html?wpisrc=twitter_socialflow

""I think it gives full information...To be able to have that information before making what most people would say is a very important, serious, life-changing decision, I think is appropriate."

Did he ever think that maybe the women don't want to be forced into learning about "full information", especially if it's an invasive procedure?

Nope, course not. Women are too fragile to be able to think for themselves about whether or not they want to undergo a medical procedure.

I'm not debating this law, but there are all sorts of "full information" laws and requirements for medical procedures. Should we de-regulate all of them because those mandates suggest that we are to fragile to be able to think for ourselves about whether or not we want to undergo a medical procedure?

 

[zagoshe]

I think any person who wants to have an abortion should first have her head stuck in a suction machine then have a big set of tweezers pull her down a hallway by the head.

If she survives and still wants to subject another human to that torture, she can indeed have an abortion

This post is a home run.

Interesting that those who believe abortion is killing want to attempt to kill those who are thinking of having an abortion. But such is the hypocrisy of the family-values clan.

I've never advocated the killing of anyone involved in abortions, be it doctors, the woman or anyone else. Ever.

 

[zagoshe]

The only people in the whole abortion cluster-fandango who actually act in accordance with their professed beliefs are the clinic bombers.

Because, if you really really legitimately believe that helpless little babies are being ruthlessly slaughtered in there in huge numbers, then you should undertake any means necessary to stop it.

And if you don't do that, it means you don't really believe it.

And those who do undertake such actions of course should face the corresponding penalties for such actions, right up to and including the death penalty.

If you really really believe that, of course.

The fact that 99.99997% of all anti-abortionists do not pursue such actions indicates that fundamentally, they don't really believe what they say. (Or, they could just be chickenshirt, too.)

Now wait a minute - the entire mantra of the pro-choice nazi's is that anti-abortion people are hypocrites cause they want to use violence to stop an act they refer to as murder.....

But you are criticizing Christian people for, well, acting like Christians and NOT resorting to violence.

So which is it - are they hypocrites that want to kill people or are they chickenshirts who don't believe what they are selling (which makes no sense, because, again, their entire stance is that murder and violence are wrong......)

In other words, you are full of shirt.

Thank you.

 

[Uncle.Ruckus]

I think any person who wants to have an abortion should first have her head stuck in a suction machine then have a big set of tweezers pull her down a hallway by the head.

If she survives and still wants to subject another human to that torture, she can indeed have an abortion

This post is a home run.

Interesting that those who believe abortion is killing want to attempt to kill those who are thinking of having an abortion. But such is the hypocrisy of the family-values clan.

I've never advocated the killing of anyone involved in abortions, be it doctors, the woman or anyone else. Ever.

YOU JUST forkING DID!

Unless, of course, the woman survives the "torture" you want to put her through in order to have your permission to have an abortion.

Are you drunk again?

 

[zagoshe]

I think any person who wants to have an abortion should first have her head stuck in a suction machine then have a big set of tweezers pull her down a hallway by the head.

If she survives and still wants to subject another hunan to that torture, she can indeed have an abortion

Very well. Anyone who wants to vote to not allow women who've been raped or victims from incest from having an abortion must get raped, if female, or sodomized if a male, before voting to allow it. Either that, or they must have sex with their fathers.

If they survive the pain, both physical and emotional, and still feel that women who undergo that physical and emotional pain must carry their rapist's child, then they can vote to ban those type of abortions.

Victims of rape and incest comprise less than 1 percent of all people who have abortions - yet to hear the pro-death people talk, you'd think they are the only ones having abortions and anyone who suggests that maybe we need to cut some of the access to abortions down are picking on victims......

 

[zagoshe]

I think any person who wants to have an abortion should first have her head stuck in a suction machine then have a big set of tweezers pull her down a hallway by the head.

If she survives and still wants to subject another human to that torture, she can indeed have an abortion

This post is a home run.

Interesting that those who believe abortion is killing want to attempt to kill those who are thinking of having an abortion. But such is the hypocrisy of the family-values clan.

I've never advocated the killing of anyone involved in abortions, be it doctors, the woman or anyone else. Ever.

YOU JUST forkING DID!

Unless, of course, the woman survives the "torture" you want to put her through in order to have your permission to have an abortion.

Are you drunk again?

No, I did not.

All I said was - if abortion is such a pleasant thing and there is no victim, then why not let the mother undergo the same procedure first?

 

[outofplace]

The only people in the whole abortion cluster-fandango who actually act in accordance with their professed beliefs are the clinic bombers.

Because, if you really really legitimately believe that helpless little babies are being ruthlessly slaughtered in there in huge numbers, then you should undertake any means necessary to stop it.

And if you don't do that, it means you don't really believe it.

And those who do undertake such actions of course should face the corresponding penalties for such actions, right up to and including the death penalty.

If you really really believe that, of course.

The fact that 99.99997% of all anti-abortionists do not pursue such actions indicates that fundamentally, they don't really believe what they say. (Or, they could just be chickenshirt, too.)

Now wait a minute - the entire mantra of the pro-choice nazi's is that anti-abortion people are hypocrites cause they want to use violence to stop an act they refer to as murder.....

But you are criticizing Christian people for, well, acting like Christians and NOT resorting to violence.

So which is it - are they hypocrites that want to kill people or are they chickenshirts who don't believe what they are selling (which makes no sense, because, again, their entire stance is that murder and violence are wrong......)

In other words, you are full of shirt.

Thank you.

Do you believe abortion is murder, Zag? If not, why aren't you doing more to stop it? It's a valid question, one that your bullshirt attempt at misdirection doesn't answer.

 

[outofplace]

I think any person who wants to have an abortion should first have her head stuck in a suction machine then have a big set of tweezers pull her down a hallway by the head.

If she survives and still wants to subject another human to that torture, she can indeed have an abortion

This post is a home run.

Interesting that those who believe abortion is killing want to attempt to kill those who are thinking of having an abortion. But such is the hypocrisy of the family-values clan.

I've never advocated the killing of anyone involved in abortions, be it doctors, the woman or anyone else. Ever.

YOU JUST forkING DID!

Unless, of course, the woman survives the "torture" you want to put her through in order to have your permission to have an abortion.

Are you drunk again?

No, I did not.

All I said was - if abortion is such a pleasant thing and there is no victim, then why not let the mother undergo the same procedure first?

More dishonesty from you. You absolutely advocated violence. At least own up to it.

 

[imjustagirl]

I think any person who wants to have an abortion should first have her head stuck in a suction machine then have a big set of tweezers pull her down a hallway by the head.

If she survives and still wants to subject another human to that torture, she can indeed have an abortion

This post is a home run.

Interesting that those who believe abortion is killing want to attempt to kill those who are thinking of having an abortion. But such is the hypocrisy of the family-values clan.

I've never advocated the killing of anyone involved in abortions, be it doctors, the woman or anyone else. Ever.

YOU JUST forkING DID!

Unless, of course, the woman survives the "torture" you want to put her through in order to have your permission to have an abortion.

Are you drunk again?

No, I did not.

All I said was - if abortion is such a pleasant thing and there is no victim, then why not let the mother undergo the same procedure first?

Wait, there are abortions in which the fetus is removed and then lives a full and healthy life?

if not, it's not the same procedure.

 

[zagoshe]

Do you believe abortion is murder, Zag? If not, why aren't you doing more to stop it? It's a valid question, one that your bullshirt attempt at misdirection doesn't answer.

What are you talking about you stalking jackass?

Oh that's right, you are talking out of your ass again.

So in other words, if I am not murdering doctors then I really don't believe that abortion is murder?

That's the dumbest thing you've ever said - and given your body of work, that is saying a helluva lot.