Aussie College Baseball Playa Killed By Bored Teens In Ok Narrative

[BenPoquette]

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Maybe they'd have a point. But Trayvon was, and did, none of those things. He wasn't carrying so much as a pen-knife. He had no criminal record except being caught with weed residue. He didn't drop out of school and he got good grades. There are ten million young men like him who are considered good kids, not thugs. He was walking to his nearby home on a public sidewalk. Trayvon was almost as close to the opposite of the guy I described above. Nothing in common... except for their dark-colored skin.

Trayvon had every right to be where he was. He had a Constitutional right to his liberty and to the expectation that he not be detained without cause. Zimmerman was a make-believe cop; he had no right to assault or detain anyone unless he saw a crime being committed. Even real police have only a limited and delineated right to do that. He used deadly force to get himself out of a situation he created, based on unfounded suspicion, and then invented a vicious unprovoked attack to keep his sorry ass out of the slammer.

Yep, Saint Trayvon was an innocent little babe in the woods...salt of the earth...I hear he even loved puppies. And that George Zimmerman...I can't wait until all this comes out in the trial and he gets what he deserves! Wait...what?

Were any of those facts wrong?

Your implications were. For instance, you said he had not dropped out of school. True, he had not "dropped out." Tell me, why was he in Sanford? Do you know the answer to that question? Kind of kills the "good student" narrative, huh?
Other small things...he was not walking home on a public sidewalk...he was observed walking close to houses. If he was doing this to stay out of the rain or not is a good question, however, there were a number of break-ins in the area and the neighborhood watch captain saw a youth he did not know in his gated community walking where he should not have been walking. Martin was never detained, so why did you even mention he had the expectation not to be detained without cause? Who detained him?
According to the trial and eyewitness testimony, Zimmerman did not assault or detain Martin. It simply did not happen and no matter how many times people try to make that claim there is no evidence of this. Zero. So, yes, that is a pretty big inaccurate statement you made.
You also claim Zimmerman used deadly force to get himself out of a situation he created, then lied about it. He was found not guilty. Nothing you are selling here is true. Sorry, I know it stings. You have to feel like a fool for buying Al Sharpton's garbage and are obviously in denial about it. The trial, the testimony and the verdict all point to you being wrong. That's okay...maybe some day you will come to grips with it.

 

[Dick Whitman]

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Let's not act like jury verdicts are air tight, OK? For a lot of reasons - namely that the defendant killed the key eyewitness - the prosecution could not prove its case. Now, it is certainly possible that Zimmerman was innocent, that he reacted appropriately in the situation. But the jury verdict is a data point, not an authoritative final finding on what occurred. O.J. was acquitted, too.

 

[MisterCreosote]

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Back to the Australian baseball player for a moment, if you will.

The autopsy report was released Tuesday:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/australian-athlete-shot-bored-oklahoma-teens-felled-single-bullet-autopsy-article-1.1438202

The bullet that killed an Australian baseball player in a random attack this month collapsed both his lungs, fractured two ribs and tore through his aorta and pulmonary artery before lodging in his shoulder, the state medical examiner said Tuesday.

First, I want to know what kind of Australian he is. Is he Aboriginal? They are descendent from criminals. Why hasn't the media asked the question? Because it's not part of the narrative?

Secondly, that's an awful lot of damage for one bullet to cause. How do we KNOW that two ribs were fractured? To say nothing of the pulmonary artery? I'm not saying it's not true, I just want someone in the media to ask the question.

The medical examiner's autopsy report supports the theory of Duncan police that Christopher Lane, 22, of Melbourne, was shot with a small-caliber weapon from behind by someone passing him in a car and that the shooter intended to kill the athlete by aiming for his upper torso.

Didn't the original report say Lane was jogging? Why isn't that in this report? Is it because jogging could've been construed by the shooters as an act of aggression and therefore justify the killing? I'm not saying that's true, I just want to know why no one in the media has asked the question. Could it be that it doesn't fit the narrative?

Meanwhile in Lane's hometown of Melbourne, hundreds of mourners packed a suburban church on Wednesday for his funeral.
Lane's mother, Donna Lane, and American girlfriend, Sarah Harper, placed significant items around his coffin, including his baptismal shawl and school uniforms.

Did anyone do a specific headcount at the funeral? How do we know the number isn't inflated to make it a more powerful narrative?

Also, a baptismal shawl or a school uniform could be used to strangle someone. Are they significant because his loved ones wanted to elegize him as the wayward killer he was? Why isn't the media asking that question?

"The bullet has a small caliber, is made of gray metal, with no jacket and has a round nose and visible markings that appear slightly deformed on the side," the autopsy said. Police have said Lane was killed with a .22-caliber handgun, and they found .22-caliber ammunition in a suspect's vehicle.

What makes them so sure the bullet was gray? Couldn't it have been black? If it was, who fed the medical examiner and the media such a falsehood? And, why doesn't anyone care to correct it?

Also, lots of people carry .22-caliber ammunition. This report doesn't specifically link the ammo to the gun used in the crime. Why not? What are people trying to hide?

The report suggests the bullet entered Lane's lower back on an upward trajectory, struck two ribs and passed through his esophagus, heart and lungs before stopping near his left shoulder.
"After penetrating the skin, the bullet passed forward, upward and to the right," the report said.

If the bullet was coming from the right, it would've hit his trachea, not his esophagus. Why isn't anyone questioning that narrative? Could it be because it would prove the original intention of the shooter was to paralyze him, not kill him, and it became fatal because Lane twitched just as the bullet entered his body? I just want someone in the media to ask the question.

Lane moved to Oklahoma to play baseball. He would have been a senior at East Central University and hoped to enter the real estate business.

According to who? He could've wanted to enter the real estate business to sell property to the Australian mafia for dead-body storage. Why isn't anyone asking that question? Because it doesn't fit the narrative?

Duncan is about 80 miles south of Oklahoma City.

Actually, it's south-WEST, and it's 81.7 miles away. Why is the media continuing to repeat this obvious error? In fact, depending on the route one takes, it could be up to 118 miles. Why isn't anyone bothering to fix this? Because it doesn't fit the narrative?

 

[Songbird]

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Poor media persecution.

 

[MisterCreosote]

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Why doesn't the autopsy report mention that he was jogging?

Why are you taking the medical examiner's word for it? This guy sure isn't:

Although the autopsy report will be a critical piece of evidence that supports police and prosecutors' theory about how Lane was shot, it does nothing to specifically link the three defendants to the killing, said Art LeFrancois, a criminal law professor at Oklahoma City University's School of Law.

"It certainly is significant that the autopsy thus far does not seem to contradict or seem to be inconsistent with the theory that the police have of the case," LeFrancois said. "It would have been troubling and problematic for the prosecution if the autopsy was inconsistent with the police's case."

 

[Boom_70]

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Why doesn't the autopsy report mention that he was jogging?

Why are you taking the medical examiner's word for it? This guy sure isn't:

Although the autopsy report will be a critical piece of evidence that supports police and prosecutors' theory about how Lane was shot, it does nothing to specifically link the three defendants to the killing, said Art LeFrancois, a criminal law professor at Oklahoma City University's School of Law.

"It certainly is significant that the autopsy thus far does not seem to contradict or seem to be inconsistent with the theory that the police have of the case," LeFrancois said. "It would have been troubling and problematic for the prosecution if the autopsy was inconsistent with the police's case."

Wait you signed off on this thread yesterday. You are not allowed to come back.

 

[MisterCreosote]

Re: Austrialian College Baseball Player Killed By Bored Teens In Oka

That's before this new information came to light.

I can't, as a crusader for justice, let it go unchallenged.

 

[YankeeFan]

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Aren't we at least owed a goofy picture announcing your return to the thread?

 

[Boom_70]

Re: Austrialian College Baseball Player Killed By Bored Teens In Oka

Back to the Australian baseball player for a moment, if you will.

The autopsy report was released Tuesday:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/australian-athlete-shot-bored-oklahoma-teens-felled-single-bullet-autopsy-article-1.1438202

The bullet that killed an Australian baseball player in a random attack this month collapsed both his lungs, fractured two ribs and tore through his aorta and pulmonary artery before lodging in his shoulder, the state medical examiner said Tuesday.

First, I want to know what kind of Australian he is. Is he Aboriginal? They are descendent from criminals. Why hasn't the media asked the question? Because it's not part of the narrative?

Secondly, that's an awful lot of damage for one bullet to cause. How do we KNOW that two ribs were fractured? To say nothing of the pulmonary artery? I'm not saying it's not true, I just want someone in the media to ask the question.

The medical examiner's autopsy report supports the theory of Duncan police that Christopher Lane, 22, of Melbourne, was shot with a small-caliber weapon from behind by someone passing him in a car and that the shooter intended to kill the athlete by aiming for his upper torso.

Didn't the original report say Lane was jogging? Why isn't that in this report? Is it because jogging could've been construed by the shooters as an act of aggression and therefore justify the killing? I'm not saying that's true, I just want to know why no one in the media has asked the question. Could it be that it doesn't fit the narrative?

Meanwhile in Lane's hometown of Melbourne, hundreds of mourners packed a suburban church on Wednesday for his funeral.
Lane's mother, Donna Lane, and American girlfriend, Sarah Harper, placed significant items around his coffin, including his baptismal shawl and school uniforms.

Did anyone do a specific headcount at the funeral? How do we know the number isn't inflated to make it a more powerful narrative?

Also, a baptismal shawl or a school uniform could be used to strangle someone. Are they significant because his loved ones wanted to elegize him as the wayward killer he was? Why isn't the media asking that question?

"The bullet has a small caliber, is made of gray metal, with no jacket and has a round nose and visible markings that appear slightly deformed on the side," the autopsy said. Police have said Lane was killed with a .22-caliber handgun, and they found .22-caliber ammunition in a suspect's vehicle.

What makes them so sure the bullet was gray? Couldn't it have been black? If it was, who fed the medical examiner and the media such a falsehood? And, why doesn't anyone care to correct it?

Also, lots of people carry .22-caliber ammunition. This report doesn't specifically link the ammo to the gun used in the crime. Why not? What are people trying to hide?

The report suggests the bullet entered Lane's lower back on an upward trajectory, struck two ribs and passed through his esophagus, heart and lungs before stopping near his left shoulder.
"After penetrating the skin, the bullet passed forward, upward and to the right," the report said.

If the bullet was coming from the right, it would've hit his trachea, not his esophagus. Why isn't anyone questioning that narrative? Could it be because it would prove the original intention of the shooter was to paralyze him, not kill him, and it became fatal because Lane twitched just as the bullet entered his body? I just want someone in the media to ask the question.

Lane moved to Oklahoma to play baseball. He would have been a senior at East Central University and hoped to enter the real estate business.

According to who? He could've wanted to enter the real estate business to sell property to the Australian mafia for dead-body storage. Why isn't anyone asking that question? Because it doesn't fit the narrative?

Duncan is about 80 miles south of Oklahoma City.

Actually, it's south-WEST, and it's 81.7 miles away. Why is the media continuing to repeat this obvious error? In fact, depending on the route one takes, it could be up to 118 miles. Why isn't anyone bothering to fix this? Because it doesn't fit the narrative?

The question must be asked, How did he jog when his bed was burning or the earth was
turning?

 

[Songbird]

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How do we know he wasn't listening to Overkill by Men at Work? Huh? Huh? C'mon, tell me now.

 

[YankeeFan]

Re: Austrialian College Baseball Player Killed By Bored Teens In Oka

Maybe they'd have a point. But Trayvon was, and did, none of those things. He wasn't carrying so much as a pen-knife. He had no criminal record except being caught with weed residue. He didn't drop out of school and he got good grades. There are ten million young men like him who are considered good kids, not thugs. He was walking to his nearby home on a public sidewalk. Trayvon was almost as close to the opposite of the guy I described above. Nothing in common... except for their dark-colored skin.

Trayvon had every right to be where he was. He had a Constitutional right to his liberty and to the expectation that he not be detained without cause. Zimmerman was a make-believe cop; he had no right to assault or detain anyone unless he saw a crime being committed. Even real police have only a limited and delineated right to do that. He used deadly force to get himself out of a situation he created, based on unfounded suspicion, and then invented a vicious unprovoked attack to keep his sorry ass out of the slammer.

Yep, Saint Trayvon was an innocent little babe in the woods...salt of the earth...I hear he even loved puppies. And that George Zimmerman...I can't wait until all this comes out in the trial and he gets what he deserves! Wait...what?

Were any of those facts wrong?

Facts can't be wrong. Much of what you wrote is not fact.

But, it is a beautiful recitation of the narrative. Have you committed it to memory?

 

[Boom_70]

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How do we know he wasn't listening to Overkill by Men at Work? Huh? Huh? C'mon, tell me now.

It's entirely possible that he was shot because he was listening to "Physical" by ONJ.
Men have been shot for less.