Baseball thread No. 7: Somebody slip the pinstripers a Mickey

[Chef]

The last two pages of this thread are why I adore sj.

We have baseball and trash-talk in the same thread.

SJ; How I heart thee, so.

I want to turn spnited v. BYH into a Celebrity Deathmatch

 

[outofplace]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4421253

One report that Johan Santana's elbow won't require major surgery, but still no word on his status for the rest of this season.

Best thing the Mets could do is shut him down for the season. No reason to risk further injury when they are going nowhere.
He's got 4 more years on his deal ... rest, rehab, come back healthy next spring.

Agreed. No way Santana should pitch again this season.

 

[spnited]

The last two pages of this thread are why I adore sj.

We have baseball and trash-talk in the same thread.

SJ; How I heart thee, so.

I want to turn spnited v. BYH into a Celebrity Deathmatch

I can't. I'm too busy doing the union's work.

 

[broadway joe]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4421253

One report that Johan Santana's elbow won't require major surgery, but still no word on his status for the rest of this season.

Last year they said much the same thing about Billy Wagner's elbow, and three weeks later he was going in for TJ surgery. You can't believe anything this organization says about injuries. They are either incompetent, duplicitous, or both when it comes to disseminating information about their players' medical status. "Day-to-day" turns into "not until after the All-Star break" turns into "Sept. 1" turns into "out for the season." Instead of worrying about how often Tony Bernazard yelled at people, somebody in the NY-area media should have launched a major investigation into the Mets' entire training and medical operations by now.

 

[2muchcoffeeman]

Because the Red Sox won't promise NOT to pick up next year's option, Billy Wagner -- who still wants to be a closer --will invoke his no-trade and stay with the Mets, assuming they will not pick up his option and he can become a free agent at the end of the year

Sox agree not to pick up option, Wagner waives no-trade, deal done.

forkforkforkfork.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?num=0&id=4421684

 

[broadway joe]

Bone chips in the elbow for Santana. Minor surgery and should be ready for spring training. Supposedly.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/08/25/mets.santana/index.html

 

[Football_Bat]

Because the Red Sox won't promise NOT to pick up next year's option, Billy Wagner -- who still wants to be a closer --will invoke his no-trade and stay with the Mets, assuming they will not pick up his option and he can become a free agent at the end of the year

Sox agree not to pick up option, Wagner waives no-trade, deal done.

forkforkforkfork.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?num=0&id=4421684

Goody goody goody! Wagner can torpedo someone else's playoff drive.

 

[BYH]

Why is it "union's work" when a player goes for the most money possible? Don't ALL of us go for the most money possible?

Yes. Because for most of us, it's a difference between $80,000 and $70,000. for these guys, it's a difference between $42 million and $40 million.

I'm still waiting, not surprisingly, for someone to explain why Tom Glavine left the Braves for an extra year (and, again, when Glavine pitches three healthy and effective years for the Braves, there is NO WAY IN heck he is putting his hat in his hand and begging for a job 10 wins or so shy of 300) with the dog-ass Mets. Why Jim Thome left Cleveland, where he enjoyed God-like status, for the Phililes, especially when he was over 30 and already battling a bad back. Why Billy Wagner, down-home boy thru and thru, went to the Mets. Why Keith Foulke, down-home boy thru and thru, went to the Red Sox. Why CC Sabathia, west coast guy thru and thru, went to the Yankees. For every Mark Teixiera, a robotic product of the Scott Boras Factory, there are five or 10 guys like the ones I just described who have to be steered to the most money.

None of these guys took the highest offer b/c it was the difference, prorated over the next 20 years. between paying for their kids' college education and having to take out multiple mortgages. They did it b/c the union would have made their life miserable if they didn't.

I can go on and on, but obviously the fact no one's managed to come up with a list of multiple players who told the union to go eff themselves and took less money on the free agent market is pretty clear proof I'm right and that anyone arguing otherwise is either a grumpy old biscuit with a bug up his ass or the board's biggest fan of the players' union and all the mighty awesomeness and gentleness that it represents.

 

[BYH]

Bone chips in the elbow for Santana. Minor surgery and should be ready for spring training. Supposedly.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/08/25/mets.santana/index.html

See him in 2011.

 

[cranberry]

BYH, why don't you explain to us exactly how the union makes "lives miserable" for players who provide their clubs with a hometown discount.

 

[buckweaver]

None of these guys took the highest offer b/c it was the difference, prorated over the next 20 years. between paying for their kids' college education and having to take out multiple mortgages. They did it b/c the union would have made their life miserable if they didn't.

Please provide a list of players whose lives were made "miserable" by the union.

 

[BYH]

BYH, why don't you explain to us exactly how the union makes "lives miserable" for players who provide their clubs with a hometown discount.

Why don't you?