BCS leagues expanding - yeah?

[Layman]

Chip Brown said another source told him ND is under a deadline.

It's almost as if ND can choose to join now and be in a 12-teamer... or join later at 16, or risk being left out. If they wait, and force us into another 16 team conference, I hope they get left out.

First, ND's "clock" won't expire this week or next week or the next. Delany will take them as the 12th or the 14th or the 16th school.

Second, didn't Chip's report before the Buffs' Tuesday meeting imply/state that the major announcement the next day would be CU bolting for the Pac 28 to cut Baylor off at the pass?

Now it's about scholarship reductions?

I'll be curious to see which report was accurate.

Arm, I don't think the ND "clock" is in regards to whether the Big 10 merely takes them. Everyone knows they will. I think it's in regards to ND's wish to be the ONLY school the Big 10 takes, and thus gets a maximum 1/12th slice of the money pie. That's the best of ND's bad (in their opinion) options. The Big 10 is at the max point of their leverage w/ ND (and, frankly ND probably has their max leverage against the Big 10, I suppose) & and it's "p*ss or get off the pot" for the Irish....at least in terms of max dollars. If they don't commit now.....Delaney pulls the trigger on at least one of the Big 12 teams (remember, he alluded last week that expansion could comes in "phases") & the big meltdown begins.

 

[Shoeless Joe]

I can't see any possibility that Carolina leaves the ACC. Even at basketball schools, apparently football still makes the most money, but I can't see them bolting one of if not the premier basketball league for a football conference.

They wouldn't give up the conference games against the Tobacco Road schools. They would still play them, but winning the ACC over Duke is equally as important as national championships.

The NC Legislature as stepped in on stuff like this in the past. After a couple of brawls between NC State and East Carolina, the two wanted to stop playing. The state legislature passed a measure that said yes you will.

Let's try this again.

East Carolina wants to play the Atlantic Coast Conference schools. Good for them.

Problem is that some in the fan base don't behave. They have trashed NCSU's Carter-Finley Stadium more than once over the years. The athletic programs are fine, and it's a compliment that ECU wants to face the ACC schools.

But some of their fans exemplify ignorance in a way I've never seen in other fanbases. All schools and teams have lunatic supporters, but somehow, ECU's find a way to stand out in this category. THERE'S the problem.

My wife - an ECU grad who was on the field in the Peach Bowl - has a COMPLETELY different take! ;D

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Chip Brown is pretty good, but he may be a bit off in the latest report.

To be fair, it's probably the understatement of the century that covering this deal would have to be a colossal pain in the ass. Just about every school is lying because they're all jockeying for leverage/invites/whatever.

 

[Sam Mills 51]

I can't see any possibility that Carolina leaves the ACC. Even at basketball schools, apparently football still makes the most money, but I can't see them bolting one of if not the premier basketball league for a football conference.

They wouldn't give up the conference games against the Tobacco Road schools. They would still play them, but winning the ACC over Duke is equally as important as national championships.

The NC Legislature as stepped in on stuff like this in the past. After a couple of brawls between NC State and East Carolina, the two wanted to stop playing. The state legislature passed a measure that said yes you will.

Let's try this again.

East Carolina wants to play the Atlantic Coast Conference schools. Good for them.

Problem is that some in the fan base don't behave. They have trashed NCSU's Carter-Finley Stadium more than once over the years. The athletic programs are fine, and it's a compliment that ECU wants to face the ACC schools.

But some of their fans exemplify ignorance in a way I've never seen in other fanbases. All schools and teams have lunatic supporters, but somehow, ECU's find a way to stand out in this category. THERE'S the problem.

My wife - an ECU grad who was on the field in the Peach Bowl - has a COMPLETELY different take! ;D

I was there. Good thing Atlanta didn't need Fulton County Stadium again. We had one drunk ECU supporter wave a huge chunk of purple-colored turf in our faces. Another made his way somewhere he shouldn't have. Jeers, then applause followed, when he was booted out of area.

My alma mater has had more than its share of embarrassing behavior - urinating in the stands of the home stadium to hold onto seats is pretty bad. But, no matter how much my school thinks it can lower the bar, out comes ECU with shovels and backhoes to see how much lower it can go.

 

[Oz]

If Texas has such a sweetheart deal in the Big 12, why would it leave? Why not just replace NU and MU with two more Texas schools to further kiss the ass of the Texas legislature?

I think the argument is that without Nebraska's national profile to sell when the FOX contract expires after this season, it's essentially Texas and Oklahoma and eight others, so the Big 12 wouldn't get anywhere near the contract it wants in trying to catch up with the SEC, Pac-10, etc.

Adding two Texas schools doesn't add TV sets or generate more revenue, and adding BYU and Utah, or Louisville and Memphis, wouldn't offset being able to sell Nebraska football in TV contract talks.

 

[Oz]

SI.com's Stewart Mandel explains ...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/06/07/expansion-scenarios/index.html

6. Kansas becomes a LeBron-like free agent.

Mandel is the guy who thinks the BCS is the best thing since sliced bread.

There has only been one sport discussed during all these expansion talks.

Blair Kerkhoff Disagrees...

Agree with you on Mandel. Anyone who says the BCS is the best system available, as opposed to a playoff that would generate somewhere around $900 million more in revenue, has a screw loose.

However, KU and the Big 12 leftovers in a Mountain West that might add Boise State would make that a BCS conference. And KU basketball would certainly be attractive to basketball-heavy conferences in the ACC and Big East, which might have to scramble to add teams themselves if the SEC and Big 10 start to take from their conferences. And would the SEC really want to add more football powers? I ask that because if it wants a better basketball rep, KU would need a home. I mean, with all the rumors about the Tar Heels in the SEC on the last two pages, KU would bring much the same resume.

Bottom line, KU will be in a BCS conference of some sort. The Jayhawks won't be playing Southern Miss in a home-and-home Conference USA rivalry. Just where KU lands, well, who knows. About 20 dominoes probably need to fall before we start to find out.

 

[mustangj17]

Nebraska - you have been Poked by Jim Delaney, Poke back?

Iowa State "Likes" the Pac-10

Kansas has written on Nebraska's wall: Hey buddy how are ya?

Notre Dame is confused

Iowa State "Likes" the Big Ten

Missouri is now friends with Jim Delaney

Iowa State "Likes" the SEC

Texas A&M and Texas are now friends

Kansas has tagged Nebraska in a photo: Hey, remember this from the good old days?

Iowa State "Likes" the MAC

Notre Dame is Single

Colorado and the Pac-10 are now friends

Kansas has written on Nebraska's wall: Hey call me

The Pac-10 has declined Baylor's Friendship request

The Big XII is now friends with Air Force, BYU

Iowa State "Likes" the Mountain West Conference, and four other conferences

Baylor has changed its relationship status from "In a Relationship with Texas" to "It's complicated"

 

[RubberSoul1979]

These conference and university officials – the self-absorbed blowhards they are – need to leave the whole thing alone and stand down. Why don't they take a lesson from their history departments, instead of messing everything up?

In the major players here I see a bunch of stodgy buffoons, men used to living comfortably and cut from an aristocratic mold.

They're greedy, out of touch and in love with themselves. Some want to settle scores with old rivals.

One action will cause an incredible ripple effect, creating a series of reactions that will in turn destroy the conference structure as we know it.

Is this June 2010 or June 1914? Yes I am comparing football to World War I. I'm sure Dennis Miller beat me to it on Monday Night Football, but it makes sense here.

If Notre Dame joins the Big 10 with Missouri and Texas joins Texas A&M in the Pac-10, I think Germany will invade Belgium. Or Iowa State will declare war on Serbia.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

Iowa State knows better than to schedule Serbia. Maybe they could play the Palau Islands.

 

[mustangj17]

Man, you make it sound like the current system works.

 

[DanOregon]

Iowa State knows better than to schedule Serbia. Maybe they could play the Palau Islands.

Only if it's a two for one.

 

[Sam Mills 51]

Man, you make it sound like the current system works.

No, it doesn't. But this isn't going to draw anyone closer to finding a system which helps even the playing field. All that will happen is fewer schools will have to share the BCS pie. They're going to make their club just that much more exclusive.