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BCS leagues expanding - yeah?

DanOregon said:
ESPN has been way, way, way behind on this. You figure someone there would have had sources on this, considering their TV contract etc. Yet, the first bit of news comes from one of their NFL guys?

Agree. They have been chasing for weeks on this.
 
I would guess that K-State is a millstone around KU's neck when it comes to conference realignment. I can't see the state lege letting KU leave the KSU behind.
 
MileHigh said:
DanOregon said:
ESPN has been way, way, way behind on this. You figure someone there would have had sources on this, considering their TV contract etc. Yet, the first bit of news comes from one of their NFL guys?

Agree. They have been chasing for weeks on this.

That's because they're too busy with Yankee, uh I mean baseball, season.
 
Chris Mortensen says Tom Osborne has informed athletic staff members that the move is coming.

Unleash the dogs of war. So long Big 12.

So long Big East as we know it, unless the Big Ten stops with Nebraska and stops at 12 teams.

Once again ND seems to have bitten off its nose to spite its face and missed the most logical choice to finally join a conference as a real, full-time member that makes geographic and competitive sense instead of being an affiliate -and a horribly-located one at that - in the Big East.

I'm sure the people at NBC sports who actually think clearly, instead of kissing ND's ass, are thrilled at their upcoming football TV lineup in the next 10 years.

With a Big Ten championship game and Nebraska on the future schedules, and a probable nine-game league schedule, where's Michigan/Michigan State competitive advantage to keep playing Notre Dame? (and screw the contracts, they can be easily broken).

And with Texas, A&M and Oklahoma coming into the Pac-16, could USC finally just say screw tradition and be done with the ND game, at least on an annual basis?
 
Piotr Rasputin said:
Oz said:
However, KU and the Big 12 leftovers in a Mountain West that might add Boise State would make that a BCS conference. And KU basketball would certainly be attractive to basketball-heavy conferences in the ACC and Big East, which might have to scramble to add teams themselves if the SEC and Big 10 start to take from their conferences. And would the SEC really want to add more football powers? I ask that because if it wants a better basketball rep, KU would need a home. I mean, with all the rumors about the Tar Heels in the SEC on the last two pages, KU would bring much the same resume.

Bottom line, KU will be in a BCS conference of some sort. The Jayhawks won't be playing Southern Miss in a home-and-home Conference USA rivalry. Just where KU lands, well, who knows. About 20 dominoes probably need to fall before we start to find out.

If you could point me to a credible media rumor that has ANY BCS conference seriously considering making a play for the Jayhawks, I'd appreciate it.

No hard facts, only rumors from my best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Lew Perkins pass out at 31 Flavors last night.

And, as I said in the previous post, about 20 dominoes probably need to fall before we start to find out where KU will fall. There's absolutely no clear answer to where the Jayhawks go, and there won't be for some time. Only speculation. Personally, I would laugh if the Big 10, for some odd reason, asks KU into the conference while giving Mizzou the cold shoulder again.
 
So if you're the Big 10 and you want Notre Dame - why not invite Rutgers, Pittsburgh and Boston College, forcing Notre Dame's hand. You gut the Big East, and while the Dome might want to stay an independent in football, it would be a bit tougher in every other sport.

Anybody know how much academics really play in these decisions. I know the bow-tied types like to talk about it, but other than the all academic teams, I don't know how conference affiliation impacts a schools academics. There isn't a College Bowl BCS is there?
 
I seriously doubt that academics have any role. From what I have read, religious beliefs (Baylor, BYU) have more to do about expansion than academics. Cal is real nervous about letting Baylor in because of religion and Cal has stopped BYU before.

What I can't figure about ND is that it wants to be a national team. My arguement is the Irish can be a national school with regional schedule. Florida, Alabama, Texas, USC and Ohio State play in their regions and every year reach a BCS game or even a national title game.

Great call on biting their nose. The unwillingness to adapt to change amazes me. It will be a costly manuever if ND stays independent.
 
Chip Brown now on ESPN saying the Texas president and AD told its coaches today that they couldn't save the Big 12, and now the six schools Brown previously reported would go to the Pac-10 -- and that the sixth is Colorado, not Baylor.
 
My bad. I still think the move to the ACC was a bad one for BC.





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RIP Big 12
 
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I don't think "religion" is why a Pac 10 school would resist a BYU or Baylor, but how a religious affiliation affects a school's academics.
 
Oz said:
Piotr Rasputin said:
Oz said:
However, KU and the Big 12 leftovers in a Mountain West that might add Boise State would make that a BCS conference. And KU basketball would certainly be attractive to basketball-heavy conferences in the ACC and Big East, which might have to scramble to add teams themselves if the SEC and Big 10 start to take from their conferences. And would the SEC really want to add more football powers? I ask that because if it wants a better basketball rep, KU would need a home. I mean, with all the rumors about the Tar Heels in the SEC on the last two pages, KU would bring much the same resume.

Bottom line, KU will be in a BCS conference of some sort. The Jayhawks won't be playing Southern Miss in a home-and-home Conference USA rivalry. Just where KU lands, well, who knows. About 20 dominoes probably need to fall before we start to find out.

If you could point me to a credible media rumor that has ANY BCS conference seriously considering making a play for the Jayhawks, I'd appreciate it.

No hard facts, only rumors from my best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Lew Perkins pass out at 31 Flavors last night.

And, as I said in the previous post, about 20 dominoes probably need to fall before we start to find out where KU will fall. There's absolutely no clear answer to where the Jayhawks go, and there won't be for some time. Only speculation. Personally, I would laugh if the Big 10, for some odd reason, asks KU into the conference while giving Mizzou the cold shoulder again.

I think they both get the cold shoulder from the Big Ten. Nebraska said yes, Notre Dame will say no. The Big Ten moves forward with 12 teams, and expansion stops there. Why? because the Texas State Legislature won't budge on the "Ya Gotta take Baylor!!!" attitude, and the Pac-10 says, "Not worth it."

The Big 12 replaces Nebraska with . . . whoever (does it really matter, except during the fall sports of football and women's volleyball?), and we get to read a bunch of columns about how this was all much ado about very little.

This thread eventually reaches 40 pages, and Missouri and Kansas fans both say, "Whew."
 
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