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Braves ditching The Ted for suburbs

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by rico_the_redneck, Nov 11, 2013.

  1. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    But I don't think anything has been approved by the county elected officials. W here is the county going to come up with the money. Raise taxes? Which ones?
     
  2. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Back in the 1970s, the citizens of the town of Arlington, Mass., which is between Cambridge and where I live in Lexington, kiboshed the planned Red Line subway extension from Harvard Square to Rt. 128, which is why the extension ends at nowhere in particular Alewife Station. The citizens who did so are now long since dead or moved to Florida. Their descendants and replacements think of lost capital gains from their houses and weep. When people don't want subways, there's only one reason. Subways allow easy travel by undesirable city folk to their own areas. It's no secret what kind of folk they mean.
     
  3. Captain_Kirk

    Captain_Kirk Well-Known Member


    Traffic is actually worse going I-285W from Gwinnett to Cobb than taking I-85S downtown. And you actually had a couple, different highway options to get from Gwinnett to the Ted, not to mention you could navigate through the side streets fairly easily if highway traffic was especially snarled.


    With the new place, there's essentially one option only--I-285. And the 9 or so mile stretch from 400 to 75 is a snail's crawl on weekday nights today. Let's see what throwing another several thousand cars into that mix does.
     
  4. Point of Order

    Point of Order Active Member

    Yeah, I stayed in this area while I was working in Atlanta. Traffic was horrible. There was only one way you could go. It will be interesting to learn how all this went down.
     
  5. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    When people engage in sweeping over-generalizations, there's only one reason ...
     
  6. Mark2010

    Mark2010 Active Member

    Yeah, seems like the thinking was with 81 home dates, if you build downtown it will help to revitalize the downtown night scene, with clubs, theaters, etc. That was the thinking in Denver, Houston, Seattle and probably other places, too.

    In comparison, a football stadium gets maybe 10 home dates and most are on weekend afternoons.

    If people are living 90 minutes away from downtown and planning to commute every single day, they've got bigger problems than where the baseball stadium is.
     
  7. Mark2010

    Mark2010 Active Member

    You build a big new ballpark and yes, you're going to have traffic. Unlike people in, say, New York or Boston, most of the rest of the country travels by automobile. So you need plenty of parking.

    Bottom line, wherever you put the stadium is going to be a magnet for traffic, unless the team is so terrible it won't draw. But Atlanta does NOT need (1) more stadiums or (2) more people.
     
  8. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    It's been a long, long time since I've done anything other than pass through Atlanta, so I'll take your word for it (that is, that route being worse than the route downtown).
     
  9. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    It's a fact that Cobb has on multiple occasions voted down MARTA service. Look it up.

    Heaven forbid they allow some non-whites up that way.
     
  10. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    And in what way does that fact speak to the assertion that racism leads people to not want subways?
     
  11. Mark2010

    Mark2010 Active Member

    Gee spelled it out pretty clearly and I suspect there's a valid point there. Not everyone, but a significant majority.

    Therein lies the dilemma: you want a ballpark and the ritzy businesses and financial gains that come with it, but you don't want the inner-city riff-raff invading your neighborhood. The whole "white flight" trend is an interesting social and economic phenomenon.
     
  12. Mark2010

    Mark2010 Active Member

    Probably too late to fix it now, but it would have been better served to convert to a football stadium for the Falcons and whomever else. Would have been much better (potentially) than the Georgia Dome.
     
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