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Budget talks: This is getting nasty

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by printdust, Jul 13, 2011.

  1. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    I just find it strange that both parties don't mind the networks providing a response for this speech, or the State of the Unions. But one party is against the Fairness Doctrine.
     
  2. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Bond yields on the 10-year and 30-year futures are lower right now than they were before those two clowns started flapping their gums.

    Everyone knows nothing is different today than it was 6 months ago, and that disaster isn't imminent and that August 2 is probably a phanton date. Two children flinging peas at each other on prime time TV with no real goal in mind is just not getting any reaction.

    I can't believe people are actually swayed by that rhetoric. There is little difference between Barack Obama and John Boehner, other than the fact that one is black and the other is orange, and if one can make the other look bad, he thinks he benefits. When John Boehner isn't taking contributions from the CME and AT&T and GE and Bank of America and Citigroup and every other firm of significance in the securities industry, I'll really believe he's a small business owning Mr. Smith who came to Washington wide eyed and found out how it works.

    Only in the U.S. does a president who pushed for a $1.75 trillion deficit his first year try to claim the high road on an even smaller debt decrease over the next 10 years, and a speaker of the house who is in the pockets of the securities, insurance and utilities industries act like he is offering the solutions to the problems he's corruptly part of.
     
  3. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    What a waste of a half hour. Nothing new. Same stuff from everyone the past six months. A pox on all of them.
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    When he talks about his small business, is he talking about the bar? Did he own it/run it at some point?

    Or did he have another business?
     
  5. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    Why does anyone give a shit that he ran a small business? Right now, he's helping to run one of the biggest "businesses" in the world. And he's playing a huge role in running it right into the ground.

    Both sides should be ashamed. What the majority of the American public wants is either a deal or some sort of assurance that this boogeyman isn't going to pop up twice per annum. Yet both the Democrats and Republicans are giving us the exact opposite.

    I think Obama should "capitulate", let the GOP have their plan and let them own it. A sort of "we did it your way ... where did it get us?" strategy.

    And no matter how it comes out, or who's perceived to get the political "win" (as if the vast majority of the country gives a flying fuck), the cold, hard truth is that we have exposed our weakness as a country to the rest of the world in a way that might be irreparable.

    We are a weak, dysfunctional country that is living off its press clippings right now. In my lifetime, I've never seen the leaders of both parties so abrogate their duties as they're simultaneously doing right now. It's pathetic.
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    He said is a non-partisan manner.
     
  7. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    I'm sure he did, but its totally irrelevant to the task at hand.
     
  8. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    Best line I've ever heard, and unfortunately I have to attribute it to a talk radio caller, "America is a third world country in denial."
     
  9. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    We're not third world, but we will be if this shit continues to play out.
     
  10. Tarheel316

    Tarheel316 Well-Known Member

    It sure is. The big business-Tea Party axis is kicking everybody's ass.
     
  11. pressmurphy

    pressmurphy Member

    BTW, what ever happened to the notion that Social Security was a separate entity with lock-box funding that couldn't be raided for other purposes?

    The feds looted it long ago, and the current talk about reducing benefits is a back-door bid to not have to repay it in its entirety. It is and should be an issue separate from the fact that the money will run out in 2037 because of population trends, but no one is talking about it.
     
  12. pressmurphy

    pressmurphy Member

    The Tea Party folks are doing exactly what they said they would when they campaigned last fall.

    I'm not sure you can say the same thing about the Dems or the party that used to be known as the GOP.
     
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