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Budget talks: This is getting nasty

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by printdust, Jul 13, 2011.

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  1. Magic In The Night

    Magic In The Night Active Member

    I believe we are Third World in many places and especially when it comes to education and health care. We need to let people enjoy the fruits of their no-tax society. I wish they'd just let the debt ceiling sit where it is and see what it's like when the world doesn't think so much of your credit rating.
     
    Magic In The Night, Jul 25, 2011
    #757
  2. CarltonBanks

    CarltonBanks New Member

    This is awesome...people are discussing things like adults and Tarheel keeps jumping in, posting something that, in essence, says, "Look at me! Look at me!" Sorry Tar, no one is buying it. But keep trying.
     
    CarltonBanks, Jul 25, 2011
    #758
  3. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    He tried to lead both sides toward each other. One side refused to budge at all.
     
    Inky_Wretch, Jul 25, 2011
    #759
  4. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    The money isn't supposed to totally run out in 2037. That's supposed to be the time (give or take a few years either way), when people won't be able to get their full checks, if nothing changes. They would still get Social Security, but they'd only get a percentage of what they're supposed to be getting (something like 75 percent, or thereabouts).
     
    Baron Scicluna, Jul 25, 2011
    #760
  5. YGBFKM

    YGBFKM Guest

    But eventually you'd have nothing left to boycott.
     
    YGBFKM, Jul 25, 2011
    #761
  6. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Other than reading the posts here I have little idea of what either Obama or Boehner had to say and I feel better for it.

    The posturing from both sides is disgraceful and really not worth the time to listen to.

    Would someone please PM me when "crisis" is resolved. Thanks.
     
    Boom_70, Jul 25, 2011
    #762
  7. Tarheel316

    Tarheel316 Well-Known Member

    Don't hold your breath waiting for that PM.
     
    Tarheel316, Jul 25, 2011
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  8. Magic In The Night

    Magic In The Night Active Member

    Not sure what you mean by this but I'm thinking then I could move to a First World country and retire and enjoy the fruits of my union dues pensions!
     
    Magic In The Night, Jul 25, 2011
    #764
  9. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Boehner was nothing short of awful. Clipped, flushed, full of "huh-uh" phrases like "That is just not going to happen." Angry dad in the bleachers. He was about ready to chew scenery.
     
    Alma, Jul 25, 2011
    #765
  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Obama being replayed now on the cable news nets.
     
    YankeeFan, Jul 25, 2011
    #766
  11. dreunc1542

    dreunc1542 Active Member

    This post along with your hope that the debt ceiling doesn't get raised basically = fuck everyone else, I got mine. You're talking like the Republicans you claim to abhor.
     
    dreunc1542, Jul 25, 2011
    #767
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The more I think about it, the sillier I find this theater. And it really is just kooky theater.

    While the president has little credibility in negotiations about how to reduce our debt when we have run three straight years of $1 trillion deficits that were lower than what he proposed, this drama is still all of the Republican's making, and those negotiations should be an entirely separate issue.

    They have somehow managed to hold our debt ceiling -- which in itself is a contrivance, but that is a separate discussion -- hostage, when it is entirely unnecessary. This year, our Federal deficit has already passed $1 trillion for the third straight year, and that is with $3.8 trillion + in outlays. And that budget was the work of John Boehner (with bipartisan support). The time to make their stand, if they were going to be so adamant about slashing our government was then, or if it has suddenly become so important, do it when they are passing a budget for fiscal 2012, which is a perfectly appropriate time to make a stand. Of course, they prefer those negotiations to be quiet and for the budget to be complicated so we can't see the fact that they are half of the problem and how the only difference between them and the democrats are the special interests they want part of that $3.8 trillion parceled out to.

    But staging all of this around the debt ceiling amounts to them passing a budget that spent more than they brought in, and then playing a game about whether they were going to make scheduled payments on the bill for the money they already spent.
     
    The Big Ragu, Jul 25, 2011
    #768
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