Can we talk about Imus like adults?

[shotglass]

What's all this I hear about crappy-headed bros?

 

[Jemele Hill]

Ahh, Dignan, but I didn't tell you what I thought of Chappelle's was funny (Rick James, Mad Real World, by the way). I actually applauded Chappelle for stepping down. I thought it was the right thing to do and I gained a ton of respect for him after his Oprah appearance. He realize he was putting something out there in the mainstream that was, at times, unacceptable. I agreed with that because I was always uncomfortable with Chappelle's use of the n-word.

 

[The Legacy of Mike Lum]

He realize he was putting something out there in the mainstream that was, at times, unacceptable.

Funny how he realized that after a couple of seasons and some syndication.

 

[jason_whitlock]

don't give me this b.s. about what they're doing to fight the negative aspects of hip hop. it's like saying, "well, jason, is fighting his weight problem. he worked out last week for 10 minutes."

when sharpton brings his daughter in studio to confront one of these rappers about their lyrics then i'll believe he's doing something.

the level of outrage directed at imus is inappropriate for the crime..... when compared to the damage these idiot rappers and their videos have done, they're trying to give imus the death penalty for jaywalking.

Apologizing for taking a page from boom's playbook, and I've missed about 8 pages of this thread, but I've lost count of how many times J-Dub has gotten on here and pimped out Tech N9ne, his rapper guy from KC.

Here's a snippet of a Tech song, "Come Gangsta":


Come gangsta
Throw your rags in the air
And know that nobody there
Will compare to your gangsta
Sag your pants to the floor
Every woman's a bench or a wart
When you're gangsta
Pack ya guns in the club
If they shrug and them thugs mean mug ya
Come gangsta
Is what they sayin' to me



Yep, way to stand behind what you believe in, Whitlock. Keep on working those corners.

i cannot and will not attempt to defend all of tech n9ne's lyrics. however, you just chose the song tech n9ne put out to answer all his local/kansas city critics who have shredded him because he refuses to be a gangsta rapper. the lyrics you quoted are tech n9ne defining what his critics "are saying to me." i know just about every rapper in kansas city, including several legitimate hardcore gangsters, and for the most part they are uniform in their dislike of tech n9ne because he's a "sellout" for making music that isn't gangster. tech says a lot of dumb stuff in his music (the guy likes to party HARD). but since splitting with the 57th street rogue dog villians in 2002 -- and literally risking his life to do it -- he has never promoted the gangster mentality. for the most part, tech n9ne makes party music. like a lot of people my generation i have a deep love-hate relationship with rap music. i have wrestled with this dilemma since 1992, the first time i wrote a column about this issue for the ann arbor news.

carry on.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

It's easy to rip on Imus for these comments when you are just one of a chorus of people castigating his remarks. But what do you do when a friend makes a racist comment? Or all of your friends want to go to a comedy show or concert with racist or sexist material. Do you go, do you support it, are you saying its okay? Are we willing to stand alone on principle?

How about when people rip on women's basketball with lesbian jokes? Is there really that much difference?
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It's easy to rip on Imus for these comments when you are just one of a chorus of people castigating his remarks. But what do you do when a friend makes a racist comment? Or all of your friends want to go to a comedy show or concert with racist or sexist material. Do you go, do you support it, are you saying its okay? Are we willing to stand alone on principle?

How about when people rip on women's basketball with lesbian jokes? Is there really that much difference?

And Chris, who has sewn up the American League Poster of The Month award already, fills out his card and yells, "Bingo!"
The naked, crude, and toweringly offensive homophobia of the wrinkle farm doesn't even come up in the discussion but it is every bit as reprehensible as what he said here. Nobody mentions it, but it's the elephant in the room here, and proof positive that it's time for this guy to depart the discourse, it really is.

Shorter JW:
This guy's my friend and not convenient for my argument so he doesn't count.

 

[Chuck~Taylor]

Ahh, Dignan, but I didn't tell you what I thought of Chappelle's was funny (Rick James, Mad Real World, by the way). I actually applauded Chappelle for stepping down. I thought it was the right thing to do and I gained a ton of respect for him after his Oprah appearance. He realize he was putting something out there in the mainstream that was, at times, unacceptable. I agreed with that because I was always uncomfortable with Chappelle's use of the n-word.

He also explained a lot during his appearence on Inside the Actors Studio with James Lipton as well.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Sorry about the bad use of quote function above.
Anybody read Lupica today?
You won't see tap-dancing like that outside of On The Town.

 

[boots]

The leprechaun should be ashamed of himself.

 

[Mmac]

It's easy to rip on Imus for these comments when you are just one of a chorus of people castigating his remarks. But what do you do when a friend makes a racist comment? Or all of your friends want to go to a comedy show or concert with racist or sexist material. Do you go, do you support it, are you saying its okay? Are we willing to stand alone on principle?

How about when people rip on women's basketball with lesbian jokes? Is there really that much difference?

The difference is that the womens basketball/lesbian jokes don't have the racial connotations, which is what really ignited this firestorm and brought all the hordes rushing in to join the issue. However, it is just a matter of time before someone gets themselves in some serious hot water by going too far with one of the womens hoops/lesbianism type cracks that seem to be proliferating recently.

 

[Lugnuts]

i cannot and will not attempt to defend all of tech n9ne's lyrics. however, you just chose the song tech n9ne put out to answer all his local/kansas city critics who have shredded him because he refuses to be a gangsta rapper. the lyrics you quoted are tech n9ne defining what his critics "are saying to me." i know just about every rapper in kansas city, including several legitimate hardcore gangsters, and for the most part they are uniform in their dislike of tech n9ne because he's a "sellout" for making music that isn't gangster. tech says a lot of dumb stuff in his music (the guy likes to party HARD). but since splitting with the 57th street rogue dog villians in 2002 -- and literally risking his life to do it -- he has never promoted the gangster mentality. for the most part, tech n9ne makes party music. like a lot of people my generation i have a deep love-hate relationship with rap music. i have wrestled with this dilemma since 1992, the first time i wrote a column about this issue for the ann arbor news.

carry on.

bunny. pancake. head.

 

[Dignan]

Ahh, Dignan, but I didn't tell you what I thought of Chappelle's was funny (Rick James, Mad Real World, by the way). I actually applauded Chappelle for stepping down. I thought it was the right thing to do and I gained a ton of respect for him after his Oprah appearance. He realize he was putting something out there in the mainstream that was, at times, unacceptable. I agreed with that because I was always uncomfortable with Chappelle's use of the n-word.

Fair enough. I also think Chappelle is hilarious, for what it's worth.

 

[Pastor]

Interesting name for someone into gangsta rap that Tech N9ne.