E-Bola

[heyabbott]

Dallas County to declare 'disaster":

Dallas County Commissioners will hold a special meeting Thursday at 2 p.m. to declare a disaster over "the potential for widespread or severe damage, injury, loss or threat of life resulting from the Ebola virus."

The declaration could help officials impose new travel restrictions on health care workers who may have cared for the first Dallas Ebola patient, Thomas Eric Duncan.

Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins said Dallas County Medical Director Dr. Christopher Perkins will sign a control order that will follow the minimum guidelines outlined by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, blocking those being monitored for Ebola symptoms from using public transportation, including buses and airliners.

It comes after revelations Wednesday that the third Dallas Ebola patient, Amber Vinson, a nurse at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, returned from a trip to Ohio with a slight fever after caring for Duncan, who died at the hospital last week.

http://bit.ly/1wb4KkL

Pretty crazy that they're going to impose travel restrictions on the healthcare workers.

From what I've seen so far Judge Clay Jenkins is showing some strong leadership. It's
clear that the City of Dallas has decided to take matters into their own hands and not rely
on the CDC or Feds.

Having a county judge in charge makes Dallas seem like the old west.

Activist Judge is going to protect Dallas from the UN and their black helicpoters who want to socialize medicine in the US. [/#randpaul2016]

 

[Neutral Corner]

We're seeing 150 travelers from the Ebola zone a day.
Nothing to worry about, nothing at all.

Yeah, they're coming to this country and dying in droves. It's all over the news.

 

[doctorquant]

Having a county judge in charge makes Dallas seem like the old west.

"Judge" in this case isn't the same as "judge" in the usual usage.

The Texas Constitution vests broad judicial and administrative powers in the position of county judge, who presides over a five-member Commissioners Court, which has budgetary and administrative authority over county government operations.

http://www.dallascounty.org/department/comcrt/jenkins/judge.php

 

[YankeeFan]

Haven't more people died from the flu this year than from Ebola?

More people die from the flu every two months in the U.S. alone, than Ebola has killed worldwide since the outbreak started.

This is the dumbest forking response to this topic ever. You keep making it, and you should really know better.

The flu kills a miniscule percentage of people who get it. The people who die from the flu are people who are mostly, elderly, very you, and/or already sick with something else.

If you or I get the flu, we'll be fine in a week.

If you or I get Ebola, and don't get diagnosed immediately, rushed to Emory, and are a match for a blood transfusion from Dr. Brantly, we'll likely be dead within a week.

That's a pretty big difference.

 

[heyabbott]

We're seeing 150 travelers from the Ebola zone a day.
Nothing to worry about, nothing at all.

Yeah, they're coming to this country and dying in droves. It's all over the news.

If you've been to Ebola lands in the past 2 months you are barred from entering the United States. Lets start with containment and then go on to treating.

It's clear though that capitistic medicine in the US sees more of a profit in Erectile Disfunction than in curing-treating communicable diseases like Ebola. Capitalism will, literally, kill you

 

[3_Octave_Fart]

NeutralCorner-
With all the answers you and Dr. MC have, why are you arguing with us panicky scamps and not working to solve the crisis? The world needs your steady hand right now.

 

[YankeeFan]

Having a county judge in charge makes Dallas seem like the old west.

"Judge" in this case isn't the same as "judge" in the usual usage.

The Texas Constitution vests broad judicial and administrative powers in the position of county judge, who presides over a five-member Commissioners Court, which has budgetary and administrative authority over county government operations.

http://www.dallascounty.org/department/comcrt/jenkins/judge.php

Confused the heck out of me when I first moved to Texas.

 

[MisterCreosote]

A healthcare worker, who follows protocol, and only interacts with an infected patient while wearing protective clothing, shouldn't be allowed to fly off to a family wedding, or long planned vacation?

No. Not until it's confirmed she is not infected.

We've been told that you can't catch Ebola from being on an airplane, and that you can't spread Ebola if you're not symptomatic.

If someone has been exposed to it, and they fly somewhere else and develop symptoms, you've added hundreds of people to the list of contacts you must now track down to ensure they don't have it. No one ever said you can't contract it on an airplane, but it doesn't spread differently or any more easily depending on location.

The key to isolating the disease is isolating anyone who has had even passing contact with an infected, sympomatic person.

Again, if people want this stopped, this is what disease containment looks like.

But, we're going to stop folks in Dallas -- end presumable Atlanta and Omaha -- from flying, while still letting in folks from Liberia?

Again, this is very targeted travel limitation of people who were known to be exposed to the patient. Are we OK with assuming every person from Liberia has been exposed? It's a country of more than 4 million people. More careful screening would be acceptable, similar to how vaccine documentation is required for entry and exit from certain countries, but outright travel bans should be limited to known direct contacts and be temporary.

 

[YankeeFan]

Not allowing someone with known exposure to travel for two weeks is different from not allowing the entire population of a country to travel.

There is Ebola in the United States now, should other countries close their borders to our travelers?

Screening those from the countries is intelligent and needful. Closing travel to them is an overreaction at this point.

One forking guy getting in from West Africa has cost us millions.

We've got schools closed in, and nurses on leave in Cleveland, where there are no cases of Ebola.

The Hospital in Dallas has been compromised, and exposed as woefully under prepared.

Just a few more cases will overwhelm our system, and inflict major damage on our economy. (Look at what's already happening with airline bookings, and airline stocks.)

(And, yes, it seems odd to say that the best healthcare system in the world could be overwhelmed by just a few cases, but it's specifically because we dedicate so many resources towards each case.)

How is it a better idea to restrict the travel of healthcare workers who we can monitor, than it is to restrict the travel of residents of Liberia, who we need to rely upon their being truthful to know what level of contact they have had with an infected person?

 

[Boom_70]

Having a county judge in charge makes Dallas seem like the old west.

"Judge" in this case isn't the same as "judge" in the usual usage.

The Texas Constitution vests broad judicial and administrative powers in the position of county judge, who presides over a five-member Commissioners Court, which has budgetary and administrative authority over county government operations.

http://www.dallascounty.org/department/comcrt/jenkins/judge.php

Confused the heck out of me when I first moved to Texas.

Confused me yesterday when watching the morning briefing. I just figured that Jenkins
was the de facto spokes person because he sounder coherent with sense of authority.

 

[Boom_70]

Not allowing someone with known exposure to travel for two weeks is different from not allowing the entire population of a country to travel.

There is Ebola in the United States now, should other countries close their borders to our travelers?

Screening those from the countries is intelligent and needful. Closing travel to them is an overreaction at this point.

One forking guy getting in from West Africa has cost us millions.

We've got schools closed in, and nurses on leave in Cleveland, where there are no cases of Ebola.

The Hospital in Dallas has been compromised, and exposed as woefully under prepared.

Just a few more cases will overwhelm our system, and inflict major damage on our economy. (Look at what's already happening with airline bookings, and airline stocks.)

(And, yes, it seems odd to say that the best healthcare system in the world could be overwhelmed by just a few cases, but it's specifically because we dedicate so many resources towards each case.)

How is it a better idea to restrict the travel of healthcare workers who we can monitor, than it is to restrict the travel of residents of Liberia, who we need to rely upon their being truthful to know what level of contact they have had with an infected person?

And now that one forking guy's family is blaming the system for his death and even plays
the race card:

http://nypost.com/2014/10/16/ebola-victims-nephew-speaks-out-and-criticizes-hospital-system/

 

[YankeeFan]

A healthcare worker, who follows protocol, and only interacts with an infected patient while wearing protective clothing, shouldn't be allowed to fly off to a family wedding, or long planned vacation?

No. Not until it's confirmed she is not infected.

Why? They're not contagious if they're not symptomatic.

Should they be allowed to go to the movies, or to a restaurant? Should they be allowed their kids?