FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

Captain Obvious · Jan 25, 2013

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JayFarrar said:

Damn you Bob Cook, if that's even your real name, I was about to post that Washington Post link.

Also of note, this was discussed on MSNBC this morning. They referenced an Emory study that said if you do the math on the Electoral College and dividing it up by congressional districts, Romney would have had 276 Electoral College votes and the presidency despite the near-historic loss in the popular vote.

This link says Romney would have won with 273 EC votes and the maps are interesting, extremely interesting to political nerds.

http://news.gnom.es/news/what-the-2012-election-would-look-like-under-the-republicans-vote-rigging-plan
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Back in the early history of the U.S., some states were divided into Electoral College districts.

Uncle.Ruckus · Jan 25, 2013

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dog eat dog world said:

See, that's exactly what Democrats want...a low income and a nanny state. Worked well in the Soviet Union didn't it? Yeah, they had 100 percent unemployment, but....
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You are quite possibly the dumbest motherfucker alive.

Captain Obvious · Jan 25, 2013

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Uncle.Ruckus said:

dog eat dog world said:

See, that's exactly what Democrats want...a low income and a nanny state. Worked well in the Soviet Union didn't it? Yeah, they had 100 percent unemployment, but....
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You are quite possibly the dumbest motherfucker alive.
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Lay off. It's likely a medication issue.

Inky_Wretch · Jan 25, 2013

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dog eat dog world said:

They're facing long term losses because party-soaked college brats, programmed to think as their politically-motivated professors train them to, opt for weed, no laws, no limits.
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Bobby Jindal was talking about you.

Bob Cook · Jan 25, 2013

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I was curious why Maine and Nebraska split their electoral votes between statewide and district-wide results (though not wholly -- in each state two votes go to the winner of the statewide vote). So, for Maine, I found this helpful story titled "Why Maine splits its electoral votes."

http://bangordailynews.com/2008/10/26/politics/why-maine-splits-its-electoral-votes/

The presidential election of 1968 in which there was a three-way contest among Republican Richard Nixon, Democrat Hubert Humphrey, and independent George Wallace brought to a head in Maine some of the national calls for reform of the electoral college system. Reformists claimed the three-way race (won by Nixon) made the winner-takes-all method unfair and distanced the outcome from what the people really indicated in the popular vote.

Rep. S. Glenn Starbird Jr., D-Kingman, heard the cries and introduced a bill to the 104th Maine Legislature in January 1969 that would change Maine’s method of applying its electoral votes back to the congressional district method, which many political pundits considered to be closer to the ideal democracy of one person, one vote.

It was a time of many changes in Maine and the nation, so there was not a lot of discussion about this bill, at least according to newspaper archives.

Odd that this happened in Maine, where Humphrey won handily in 1968, and Wallace made barely a peep. http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=1968&fips=23&f=0

I haven't seen the rationale for why Nebraska split its vote beginning with 1992, except that Republicans there are the ones, unlike other states, pushing for a winner-take-all vote. That's a result of Obama getting one electoral vote in 2008 from an Omaha-centered district. I presume that anger has died down since Obama didn't carry Omaha and its surroundings in 2012.

http://www.omaha.com/article/20110310/NEWS01/703109822
http://www.kvnonews.com/2012/05/gov-concerned-nebraska-could-again-split-electoral-vote/

dreunc1542 · Jan 25, 2013

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YankeeFan said:

GeorgeFHayek said:

I feel really bad for this person. She borrowed $140,000 to pursue advanced degrees in philosophy -- and we all know how remunerative a career in philosophy can be -- and they're not making it easy for her to get those loans forgiven.
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So, teaching on-line courses in ethics qualifies as working for public-service organizations?

Yeah, she's really putting herself out there for the greater good. She doesn't have to leave her house for this job, but she's doing public service.

And, it really points out the problems with so many of our government programs -- if she does too well, she loses her benefits. And, her whole goal is not to do well, but to remain illegible for debt forgiveness. The incentives are all backwards.

The years of paperwork necessary to make the claim is incredible as well. All of this work to avoid loan repayment.

And, yes, it's just going to get harder for college adjuncts. Lot's of stories about colleges cutting hours to get under the 30 hour a week standard:

As employers prepare to implement the Affordable Care Act, it’s not just low-wage fast food workers who are feeling the heat. Adjunct faculty from at least four universities will also see their hours cut as colleges try to reduce the number of full-time employees whose health care they need to cover.

The four schools are Florida’s Palm Beach State College, Pennsylvania’s Community College of Allegheny County, Ohio’s Youngstown State University, and New Jersey’s Kean University. All four of those schools are state-owned.

Gwen Bradley, a senior program officer for the American Association of University Professors, said the AAUP’s National Committee on contingent faculty was “deeply concerned” by the emerging trend.

“Adjuncts are very precarious anyway,” said Bradley. “They usually have very low wages, and are often already below the thresholds for health care. But for those people who have it, being cut down to lose it is very devastating.”

Only contingent faculty—as opposed to full-time, tenure-track faculty—would be affected by the change in policy. Since the Affordable Care Act requires that employers provide health care to any employee who works 30 hours per week or more, universities like Palm Beach State College have opted to cap the time that contingent faculty are allowed to work at just below the 30-hour benchmark.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/01/14/colleges-roll-back-faculty-hours-in-response-to-obamacare/
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When a fast food restaurant, where profit margins are slim, cuts hours, the owner is a bad guy, and people want to organize a boycott.

I haven't heard much of an outcry against Big Education.
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I spend a lot of time thinking about how I can become illegible for debt forgiveness.

Azrael · Jan 25, 2013

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Use a very soft pencil when doing your paperwork. They'll have to process everything by hand.

Captain Obvious · Jan 25, 2013

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We all know why YF dislikes higher ed and has such a high degree of disdain for instructors and professors.

dog eat dog world · Jan 25, 2013

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Uncle.Ruckus said:

dog eat dog world said:

See, that's exactly what Democrats want...a low income and a nanny state. Worked well in the Soviet Union didn't it? Yeah, they had 100 percent unemployment, but....
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You are quite possibly the dumbest motherfucker alive.
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Some day, you'll grow up. Angry, bitter...you are a tailor-made Demo-crap.

Captain Obvious · Jan 25, 2013

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dog eat dog world said:

Uncle.Ruckus said:

dog eat dog world said:

See, that's exactly what Democrats want...a low income and a nanny state. Worked well in the Soviet Union didn't it? Yeah, they had 100 percent unemployment, but....
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You are quite possibly the dumbest motherfucker alive.
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Some day, you'll grow up. Angry, bitter...you are a tailor-made Demo-crap.
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Ask the doc about lithium.

dreunc1542 · Jan 25, 2013

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In the same post in which a poster uses the term "Demo-crap" as an insult, he hopes that another poster will grow up. Awesome.

Captain Obvious · Jan 25, 2013

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dreunc1542 said:

In the same post in which a poster uses the term "Demo-crap" as an insult, he hopes that another poster will grow up. Awesome.
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Kind of like Drip telling people to grow up.

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