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Globe and Mail reports that NHL may be loaning money to Phoenix Coyotes

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by hockeybeat, Dec 24, 2008.

  1. Beef03

    Beef03 Active Member

    I could see him retiring if they move, regardless of where.

    I think Seattle is actually becoming more of a legitimate possibility, with an arena now looking like a greater reality. Even in the interim they could play out of the Key Arena while it is being built, even if it is antiquated, the Colisee is even more antiquated. Seattle is also a market that has a long history with hockey, plus they would remain in the same conference, and potentially in the same division. They would also have built in rivalries with the Canucks and potentially the Sharks.

    That being said I wouldn't mind if they ended up in QC either.

    Not rooting for one over the other, although the more teams in Canada the better, I just wouldn't completely rule out all other locals.
     
  2. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    After Phoenix, who are the next candidates to move? Almost everyone else has an arena, no?
     
  3. Brooklyn Bridge

    Brooklyn Bridge Well-Known Member

    I think a new Seattle arena maybe a bit more of a stretch than people think, especially after the Mariners and the Port of Seattle came out against the current plans because of congestion/traffic mitigation fears.
     
  4. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    It's more than a little stretch.
     
  5. Double J

    Double J Active Member

    Islanders, although they could end up in Brooklyn as easily as they'll go anywhere.

    The only problem with the Brooklyn scenario is that the hockey configuration only allows for 14,500 spectators. Still, better to have a full arena of that size than a 19,000-seat barn that's only half-full. (Assuming the Isles could fill it with Brooklyn hockey fans, that is.)
     
  6. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

  7. Beef03

    Beef03 Active Member

    MTS centre seats just over 15,000, I want to believe if they can scratch by on that in Winnipeg, albeit with the second highest average ticket in the nhl, I'm sure they can make it work in Brooklyn where their is a slightly bigger economic base.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/stars/post/_/id/13315/stars-have-cheapest-ticket-in-nhl

    http://www.fancostexperience.com/pages/fcx/fci_pdfs/6.pdf
     
  8. Double J

    Double J Active Member

    Irrelevant. The Isles are and will continue to be the third team in a market where the second team is barely outdrawing Winnipeg as it is.

    http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance

    You'll note that the team you cited in those links.....the team with the cheapest ticket prices....a team based in the downtown core of the ninth-largest city in the United States.....the centre of the country's fourth-largest metropolitan area.....is also third from the bottom of the attendance list.

    If the Isles are going to work in Brooklyn, or anywhere else on Long Island, they need more than to just show up. The Stars are proving that in Dallas.
     
  9. Beef03

    Beef03 Active Member

    In Winnipeg, from tickets and concessions (1 beer, 1 dog, 1 soda per ticket, 1 program) alone (not counting merchandise or parking) the Jets will pull in at least $72,374,044.04. The catalyst to that is their ticket price which will cover salaries and some other operating costs.

    With the same categories punched in for the Islanders this season IF Nassau was full that number would be just $48,108,835.84. At a reported 81.1% capacity they are falling well short of that and I can guarantee you are losing money. If they want to break even in a new building as small as the Brooklyn building, they will need to charge Jet-like prices. That is what I was saying. And I think even at those prices they'd sell out, at least for the first season. BUT one big advantage Brooklyn and New York (not Newark) has over say Winnipeg is a much larger financial and business community, even if they are the third hockey team in the market. You put them in a brand new building in Brooklyn, (again) not Newark, and they very quickly jump to No. 2, especially with a young, exciting team.
     
  10. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    The Jets won't get revenue sharing as revenues are better than expected. Don't know how that will continue during the next several season, but a good start. Anyone have an idea how much the local TV deal brings in?

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/jets/Jets-will-not-need-NHLs-revenue-sharing--146445605.html

    As for the Islanders, the team gets $20 million per season from MSG, which rises every year until the deal ends in 2030-31.
     
  11. Smasher_Sloan

    Smasher_Sloan Active Member

    As United States citizens, what can we do to relocate more NHL franchises to Canada? Where do Obama and Romney stand on this?
     
  12. 3OctaveFart

    3OctaveFart Guest

    Maybe we can try supporting the teams.
     
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