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Globe and Mail reports that NHL may be loaning money to Phoenix Coyotes

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They're not as powerful as TML, but could the Canucks block a move into Seattle? Their radio and TV signals don't stop at the border.
 
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=414808

Bill Daly insists the Maple Leafs do not have the ability to block another team from setting up shop in the Toronto market. So if the Maple Leafs cannot technically block anyone, neither can the Canucks. I've always thought the territory argument was BS anyways. If there can be three teams in the immediate New York City market, the Leafs don't have a leg to stand on to prevent expansion in the GTA. He also says there are no plans to expand or move any teams.
 
JC, a man who seems to know a bit about hockey (and definitely more than me), has posted here that the Canucks wouldn't block a team in Seattle.

It's 140 miles or so between the cities. I'm not sure what the tie-ups are like at the crossings in the Northwest, but if they're anything like those in the Northeast that could make it a 3-hour trip.
 
Beef03 said:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=414808


Bill Daly insists the Maple Leafs do not have the ability to block another team from setting up shop in the Toronto market. So if the Maple Leafs cannot technically block anyone, neither can the Canucks. I've always thought the territory argument was BS anyways. If there can be three teams in the immediate New York City market, the Leafs don't have a leg to stand on to prevent expansion in the GTA. He also says there are no plans to expand or move any teams.

Thank you for linking this. Daly regarding the Markham situation:

Daly admits the league has had discussions with the Markham group in recent years, but at no point have any promises of a franchise been made.

"This is probably something they've been in contact with us, off and on, over the last two to three years," Daly told LeBrun. "And what we've told them consistently is, 'You have to make the decision that's in the best interests of the city of Markham on the full assumption that you will not be getting an NHL franchise. If it makes sense as a project on that basis, go ahead and build it. That's your decision. But you should not assume there's going to be an NHL franchise there. Either in the short term, or in the long term.'"


I saw something in the comments that has possiblities. Maybe we should work through this. I've driven through Santa Fe but never stopped. This would give me a reason. A team in South Dakota has to be located in Stugis to tie into the Rally. That would be fabulous:

Quebec would be cool, but if LA can support 2 basketball teams, why not 2 hockey teams? Also, Texas is a big state, we could probably fit another team or 2 in there. Have they explored the possibilities in Santa Fe, Wyoming, Montana or the Dakotas? New Orleans, Mississippi, Alabama and Arkansas could set up some cool geographical rivalries with the Florida teams, Nashville, Carolina and Dallas. Why has nobody brought this up?
 
wicked said:
JC, a man who seems to know a bit about hockey (and definitely more than me), has posted here that the Canucks wouldn't block a team in Seattle.

It's 140 miles or so between the cities. I'm not sure what the tie-ups are like at the crossings in the Northwest, but if they're anything like those in the Northeast that could make it a 3-hour trip.
Canucks would love a team in Seattle. The travel alone would help them and it would no affect their bottom line one bit.

I love Seattle but I think there is no way in heck a team would be successful long term. The hockey team would be the 6th most popular team in that market. They'd be far better than Glendale but that's not saying much. I hope I'm wrong but I can't see it working long term.
 
Armchair_QB said:
wicked said:
Saw a piece out there that Bettman will push expansion to 32 (and the ensuing fees) as a way of mollifying some owners for lost lockout revenues, with GTA and Quebec City mentioned. Also the Leafs would get a nice chunk of change for a team coming into its territory. Not sure how reliable it is.

Even though the GTA and Quebec make the most sense I can't see the league putting two expansion teams in Canada. One of the two will get a team and a US city that won't support a team but has a nice arena (Houston, Kansas City, Seattle) will get the other team.

My guess is the Yotes wind up in Seattle, Quebec gets the Canadian expansion team and we get the second coming of:


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I can't see any scenario where KC gets a team. The market is already stretched thin with the Chiefs, Royals and Sporting KC. I get that KC has a larger geographic draw than many areas because of its relatively remote location, but its metro of 2 million isn't much more than Milwaukee and Indianapolis. At least with Seattle, you have a larger population -- and a wealthier population -- to make up for the saturation of pro sports in the area.
 
Beef03 said:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=414808

Bill Daly insists the Maple Leafs do not have the ability to block another team from setting up shop in the Toronto market. So if the Maple Leafs cannot technically block anyone, neither can the Canucks. I've always thought the territory argument was BS anyways. If there can be three teams in the immediate New York City market, the Leafs don't have a leg to stand on to prevent expansion in the GTA. He also says there are no plans to expand or move any teams.

Yeah, I think it's more backroom arm twisting than an outright veto power. If it were not so, I would have expected there would be a second team in the GTA by this time.

How much longer the Islanders stay in Nassau Coliseum is a mystery to me.

I would rate Milwaukee a better market than Kansas City, although you do have to compete with the NBA team there.
 
As long as the Bucks are in Milwaukee, there's no way in heck it gets a NHL team. Even if the Bucks leave, a new arena would have to be built.
 
Markham will get a team before any American city.
 

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