GOP VP thread: Palin is the pick

[buckweaver]

And can we put this lack-of-vetting shirt to rest please? (Although I know it won't.)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/30/AR2008083002377.html

Yes, because I think it's just super that six people unilaterally decided the selection of who should be the No. 2 government official in the land. Democracy in action right there.

Wonderful vetting process. Exactly the way I want to see my government work.

Thanks, GOP. Great precedent this potential administration is setting.

Can we go back and see what the vetting processes were for every other presidential candidate? That would be fascinating.

Umm, you remember those 50 primaries earlier this year? Yeah, millions of people voted. That's how we chose the presidential candidates.

EDIT: Yes, I realize that's not how VP candidates are chosen. But it's still too Orwellian for my tastes. I hate secretive governments.

 

[DanOregon]

Lyman, I'm just speaking for myself, but I applaud McCain's audacity and as a political junkie I find this pick just about the most amazing thing I've seen since Schwarzenegger was elected governor of California. I admire Palin and what she represents (hopefully the future of the GOP), but the dynamics of this thing are incredible. We are at the end of the Bush/Clinton era in politics. No more talk about Whitewater, drugs, going AWOL, blowjobs and cigars. And I couldn't be more pleased.

And one other thing Lyman, none of McCain's staff were willing to be named in that WashPo story. I don't know why they wouldn't want to make their boss look good on the record, but I guess they may have their reasons.

 

[spnited]

Hate to tell you this, lyman. but if you're counting 20 months as governor as "executive experience" your VP candidate has more "executive expierence" that your presidential candidate.

And, again, if anyone thinks any VP candidate has enough pull to sway the elaction, they are sadly mistaken.
Tell me, any of you, the last time your presidential vote went to the person with the best running mate.
NEVER!

 

[GB-Hack]

And can we put this lack-of-vetting shirt to rest please? (Although I know it won't.)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/30/AR2008083002377.html

Yes, because I think it's just super that six people unilaterally decided the selection of who should be the No. 2 government official in the land. Democracy in action right there.

Wonderful vetting process. Exactly the way I want to see my government work.

Thanks, GOP. Great precedent this potential administration is setting.

Can we go back and see what the vetting processes were for every other presidential candidate? That would be fascinating.

Umm, you remember those 50 primaries earlier this year? Yeah, millions of people voted. That's how we chose the presidential candidates.

To be fair, Buck, no-one voted Biden into becoming VP. He was picked by Obama's selection commitee.

 

[sportschick]

He's not talking about vice presidential candidates, only presidential ones.

 

[Lyman_Bostock]

That this thread has been pushed to 55 pages in such a short time is very telling about some of you.

You're right. It says that we care enough about our lives, about this country, about this election to debate a relevant issue at length, going over the pros, cons and ramifications of McCain's decision.

Yes, and it also tells me a lot of Dems are scared shirtless that this pick could spoil your dreams of winning in November.

What indicates that? I think you're reading something into this that isn't there.

I think a lot of vituperative (there's that word again) reactions from some people here are based in that. I think they were banking on a safe, boring pick that they could tie to Bush. Seems like they're far too worked up about who's No. 2. Particularly when that person has more executive experience than their No. 1.

And exactly the same thing didn't happen when Biden was picked?

And god that executive argument is going to get tired soon. Again, I think it's far more about the positions the candidates have taken than whether they've signed a bill before.

It's not like Obama or McCain, who also has no executive experience, will not know what to do with a bill when it arrives on their desk.

Not nearly to this extent, IIRC. Not around here, certainly.

Who was the last senator to be elected president? LBJ? Typically, governors have had more success at the ballot box than senators. Executive-to-executive moves, not legislative-to-executive. Although certainly, signing or vetoing a bill isn't exactly rocket science.

BTW, Biden also doesn't have executive experience. I wonder the last time all four prinicpals in an election had so little of it.

 

[Lyman_Bostock]

And can we put this lack-of-vetting shirt to rest please? (Although I know it won't.)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/30/AR2008083002377.html

Yes, because I think it's just super that six people unilaterally decided the selection of who should be the No. 2 government official in the land. Democracy in action right there.

Wonderful vetting process. Exactly the way I want to see my government work.

Thanks, GOP. Great precedent this potential administration is setting.

Can we go back and see what the vetting processes were for every other presidential candidate? That would be fascinating.

Umm, you remember those 50 primaries earlier this year? Yeah, millions of people voted. That's how we chose the presidential candidates.

EDIT: Yes, I realize that's not how VP candidates are chosen. But it's still too Orwellian for my tastes. I hate secretive governments.

What would you do, then? Take the runner-up in each party and make them the VP candidate? (Which is not necessarily a bad idea.)

 

[buckweaver]

Who was the last senator to be elected president? LBJ?

Harding and JFK are the only sitting senators to be elected president.

 

[spnited]

Who was the last senator to be elected president? LBJ?

Wow, you are even dumber than I thought.

 

[Lyman_Bostock]

Lyman, I'm just speaking for myself, but I applaud McCain's audacity and as a political junkie I find this pick just about the most amazing thing I've seen since Schwarzenegger was elected governor of California. I admire Palin and what she represents (hopefully the future of the GOP), but the dynamics of this thing are incredible. We are at the end of the Bush/Clinton era in politics. No more talk about Whitewater, drugs, going AWOL, blowjobs and cigars. And I couldn't be more pleased.

And one other thing Lyman, none of McCain's staff were willing to be named in that WashPo story. I don't know why they wouldn't want to make their boss look good on the record, but I guess they may have their reasons.

I'm with you on a lot of that. As for the no-names thing, that didn't strike me as unusual.

And spinited is right -- I really don't think the VP makes a heck of a lot of difference one way or the other. (Look at Quayle.) But maybe other people don't agree.

 

[spinning27]

Executive experience?

Define that, Lyman. Of course, you can't.

 

[old_tony]

[blue] I was going to vote for Dukakis in 1988 until he selected Lloyd Bentsen. [/blue] ;D