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Guns, the NRA, the constitution and senseless shootings

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Johnny Dangerously, Apr 16, 2007.

  1. jgmacg

    jgmacg Guest

    Virginia has some of the worst gun regulation in the country.
     
  2. HejiraHenry

    HejiraHenry Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but providing ID/background check for gun purchases is a federal law, no?
     
  3. Of course.

    And they just jump up on their own and kill innocent, simon-pure Canadians.

    If you didnt' have us to blame for your ills, what would you do?
     
  4. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

    Happens all the time. Like on the Sopranos last week.
     
  5. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

    Spectacular work, Alma.

    Just spectacular.
     
  6. dog428

    dog428 Active Member

    I love the people who proclaim that handguns deter violent crime. My ass. For every instance in which a handgun is used to stop ANY crime, there are a 1,000 cases in which buying a handgun turns out not so good.

    The fact of the matter is, you buy a handgun for one reason: A false sense of security.

    You buy that hunk of metal, it makes you feel a little more manly, a little more invincible. You imagine all the great ways you'll be able to use it to send bad guys scurrying away, awed by your really cool gun.

    The problem is, when it comes time to use it, you, the law-abiding citizen, will pause and consider the ramifications of taking a human life. The bad guys very rarely do that.

    The bottom line is this: We make handguns illegal and start a concerted, well-funded, nationwide effort to get the things off the streets, you'll see the murder rates in this country drop like a damn rock.
     
  7. jgmacg

    jgmacg Guest

    Nope. State. The Feds allow access to the NCIC database to check for wants and warrants, but gun purchase is state regulated. And Virginia's regulations stink. They remain some of the loosest in the country.
     
  8. d
    So of course, the bad guys will give up their weapons without complaint. At least in dog's Fantasy World, wherever that is (and please, I want no part of it).

    Wrong, wrong, wrong.
     
  9. Tom Petty

    Tom Petty Guest



    i'm sorry my friend, but you are the one going to extremes. i don't own a gun for the purpose of destroying ... that's where your logic breaks down.

    also, you're not going to use a computer as a pillow or to stir soup either, chief. what other household item do you use to both sleep on and stir soup with? this is not a valid argument, and i think you know that.
     
  10. Tom Petty

    Tom Petty Guest

    how's that whole war on drugs -- a war declared in '72 i believe -- workin' out for us?
     
  11. dog428

    dog428 Active Member

    So, you just skipped through the entire post and jumped immediately to: "Trying to take guns away, quick, make standard argument?"

    It doesn't MATTER what the criminals are doing. The fact that you own a gun makes you no safer. It's your little security blanket that you pull over your head to keep the monsters out. Of all the things that might deter crime, you owning a gun is so far down the list it's not worth mentioning.

    And you can get a ton of the guns off the streets. This idea that "the criminals won't turn their guns over" is so flawed it's laughable.

    Maybe you've seen a gun. It's a big-ass hunk of metal that's somewhat difficult to conceal.

    Every time a "bad guy" is busted for anything, the guns are taken. Every time a "bad guy" turns without signaling and has his car searched, the guns are taken.

    You start taking all the guns off the street and there are no more in production, you get a drop in guns, no matter who's willfully turning them over.
     
  12. dog428

    dog428 Active Member

    There wouldn't be a war at this point if the major suppliers of drugs were shut down.

    You stop the gun manufacturers from making handguns, the number of guns on the street drops like a rock inside a year. And the murder rate follows right behind it.
     
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