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How Many Subscribers do you Need to Publish Daily?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by LanceyHoward, May 3, 2018.

  1. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    I was wondering, is there a rule of the thumb about the minimum number of subscribers that a paper needs to print daily? I don't think I have heard of many dailies having circulation below about 5,000 but I really do not have any idea. I am wondering how many small dailies are in danger of falling the minimum necessary and will be cutting back to publishing once or twice a week.
     
  2. I Should Coco

    I Should Coco Well-Known Member

    It happened in our family-owned chain, Lancey. A six-day daily whose circulation fell below 3,000 was converted into a twice-a-week publication (Wednesday and Saturday). Among other problems, it was switched from carrier to mail delivery (meaning it is laid out Monday and Thursday evening) and — surprise! — instead of reducing the subscription price because readers were getting less newspapers, they kept the price the same and added unlimited access to a "new and improved" web site.

    A little over one year later, that paper has less than 1,000 subscribers (as a twice-a-week).
     
  3. crimsonace

    crimsonace Well-Known Member

    Have never quite understood why newspaper execs seem to think giving people less product for the same (or an increased) price is going to retain subscribers and increase revenue.
     
  4. Fredrick

    Fredrick Well-Known Member

    I've always felt it was part of the plan to get rid of the print product. If the circulation falls enough, the higher-ups might go all online, which frankly seems to be the goal at all the medium sized to large (formerly large) newspapers. The people that make decisions are purposely trying to kill the print edition while making sure the top brass get their vacation homes and snowmobiles and boats. I mean it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize cutting prize winning columnists and beloved reporters and shrinking the rag to 10 pages from 50 and charging more for it, won't work. They want circulation to decrease, at least that was the plan up until recently. Now, with the websites continuing to not make any money ...
     
  5. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    But how did it work out from a profit and loss perspective?

    The company lost two/thirds of subscription revenue. But they went from printing 3,000 copies a day six times a week to 1,000 copies twice a week, so that is an 87.5% reduction in paper costs. I am sure that their large retail customers got reductions in their ad pricing but what about the classifieds, obituaries and legals? How many staff were retained for the weekly?

    My guess is that the reduced cost did not make up for the reduced revenues but I am not sure. And if the answer is the weekly in fact makes more money then a small daily that an ominous sign for small town papers and their staffs.
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2018
  6. lcjjdnh

    lcjjdnh Well-Known Member

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  7. Fredrick

    Fredrick Well-Known Member

  8. I Should Coco

    I Should Coco Well-Known Member

    All good questions, and as a worker bee, I certainly don't know the profit/loss numbers.

    Part of the deal is, the Saturday edition still gets all the inserts of my shop's Sunday edition ... so our ad people can still say we "reach" the county where the twice-weekly paper circulates. (It's a neighboring county with small towns; many of their residents come to our town to shop)

    The staff reduction: instead of somebody laying out their 6-8 pages six days a week, a copy editor at our shop lays out their 10-12 pages every Monday and Thursday. The paper now has only two editorial people, doing everything from news to sports to obits/community news, plus all the online stuff.

    My guess is the decision was made to stem the loss of money on printing, and carriers (remember it's delivered by mail now; my guess is a postal permit is cheaper than home delivery). I wouldn't be too optimistic about the long-term future; we recently shuttered a weekly paper that was even leaner on printing and personnel costs because it was losing money.
     
  9. lcjjdnh

    lcjjdnh Well-Known Member

    Anecdotal (but depressing): My apartment building-which probably has about 70 units-gets 12 copies of the paper (a good one) delivered everyday for anyone take for free, as an “amenity.” Yet I routinely walk back in after work and see more than half of them still sitting there.

    I am also so far as I can tell the only person in the building who subscribes to any other daily newspaper (in my case, the WSJ).
     
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