Joe Girardi rips into Joel Sherman

[LongTimeListener]

Can we set up a YF-BYH point-counterpoint on this?

 

[Azrael]

Is it possible that Sherman already knew the answer to his question, having asked it in private and then put Girardi on spot by asking in public.

That's a pretty good theory. Some rules are the same on and off the field. Don't show someone up.

Or Girardi might have already specified it was a question he wouldn't answer.

 

[Versatile]

Is it possible that Sherman already knew the answer to his question, having asked it in private and then put Girardi on spot by asking in public.

That's a pretty good theory. Some rules are the same on and off the field. Don't show someone up.

Or Girardi might have already specified it was a question he wouldn't answer.

It's an OK theory, except Girardi did answer the question, earlier in his news conference, then again for Sherman. (CC Sabathia is fine, if you're wondering.) What set Girardi off was that he thought, by Sherman asking a question that had already been asked earlier, he was insinuating Girardi was lying. That almost certainly was not the case as Sherman preceded his question with, "You may have already been asked this, but ..."

I heard that the noise in the interview area made it tough to hear questions and/or answers. The other writers could have taken notes if they wanted but I guess they chose not to go that way. Sherman took the high road by not going after Girardi in his column. There could have been consequences.

I think he should have addressed the blowup, in some way, though. Everyone else, even your own publication, is writing about it. And you have first-hand knowledge of what happened.

 

[Boom_70]

Is it possible that Sherman already knew the answer to his question, having asked it in private and then put Girardi on spot by asking in public.

That's a pretty good theory. Some rules are the same on and off the field. Don't show someone up.

Or Girardi might have already specified it was a question he wouldn't answer.

It's an OK theory, except Girardi did answer the question, earlier in his news conference, then again for Sherman. (CC Sabathia is fine, if you're wondering.) What set Girardi off was that he thought, by Sherman asking a question that had already been asked earlier, he was insinuating Girardi was lying. That almost certainly was not the case as Sherman preceded his question with, "You may have already been asked this, but ..."

I heard that the noise in the interview area made it tough to hear questions and/or answers. The other writers could have taken notes if they wanted but I guess they chose not to go that way. Sherman took the high road by not going after Girardi in his column. There could have been consequences.

I think he should have addressed the blowup, in some way, though. Everyone else, even your own publication, is writing about it. And you have first-hand knowledge of what happened.

After 16 years I would think that Sherman would know what questions were going to set Girardi off and at same time Girardi would realize the purpose of question.

Let's say that they had an off the record conversation prior where Girardi was candid with Sherman and said that CC had tender shoulder.

 

[Versatile]

After 16 years I would think that Sherman would know what questions were going to set Girardi off and at same time Girardi would realize the purpose of question.

Let's say that they had an off the record conversation prior where Girardi was candid with Sherman and said that CC had tender shoulder.

That seems less likely than Girardi flipping out from stress after a crucial loss hinged on a shirtty call.

 

[Boom_70]

After 16 years I would think that Sherman would know what questions were going to set Girardi off and at same time Girardi would realize the purpose of question.

Let's say that they had an off the record conversation prior where Girardi was candid with Sherman and said that CC had tender shoulder.

That seems less likely than Girardi flipping out from stress after a crucial loss hinged on a shirtty call.

In the end Sherman deserves credit for asking the question and doing his job. It has to get tougher when you have had a working relationship with someone for 16 years.

 

[Azrael]

After 16 years I would think that Sherman would know what questions were going to set Girardi off and at same time Girardi would realize the purpose of question.

Let's say that they had an off the record conversation prior where Girardi was candid with Sherman and said that CC had tender shoulder.

That seems less likely than Girardi flipping out from stress after a crucial loss hinged on a shirtty call.

Maybe a little of both. Unless he was physically absent, it's also not very likely that Sherman missed the first version of question entirely.

 

[YankeeFan]

Can we set up a YF-BYH point-counterpoint on this?

Right? Where the fork is BYH on this?

I mean, he came back? How is he resisting posting on this thread?

 

[Boom_70]

Can we set up a YF-BYH point-counterpoint on this?

Right? Where the fork is BYH on this?

I mean, he came back? How is he resisting posting on this thread?

BYH is really Joel Sherman

 

[YankeeFan]

That explains it!

 

[Elliotte Friedman]

Like LoneStar, I've been through this a couple of times. I prefer to avoid a scene, but there is a limit -- I will not allow anyone to embarrass me. I try to be polite, but firm, usually asking if someone wants to go chat about it privately (which is what Sherman and Girardi did here).

If that doesn't work, I will walk away, unless really provoked. It's rare that I snap, but did once against Charles Oakley, of all people. Personally, I don't mind it if -- in private -- things get heated. Two adults should be able to blow off steam once in a while.

As for writing about it, it's too "look at me" for my tastes. For the first time ever, I had to do it this year, after an executive used a blog entry to rip our show. Generally, I'd rather do what Sherman did -- just be professional and work.

 

[Versatile]

As for writing about it, it's too "look at me" for my tastes. For the first time ever, I had to do it this year, after an executive used a blog entry to rip our show. Generally, I'd rather do what Sherman did -- just be professional and work.

But doesn't that cost you and your employer hits? This type of story, told by Sherman, would get linked all over.