Jonathan Martin and the Miami Dolphins

[qtlaw]

Is getting hammered an "abuse of alcohol?" If so, then I estimate that over 50% of America has "abused" alcohol at some point in their lives.

 

[Boom_70]

But of course Mark 2010 recommends that everyone just continue hiding and saying nothing; so ah this can continue for the next 100 years.

See what does Incognito or any of the others have to fear being stereotyped or harassed about? NOTHING. But of course its "fair game" to taunt the Asian about Pearl Harbor. Yeah that's fair.

Nothing you don't see on Monday Night Raw weekly

 

[YankeeFan]

A lot of BS involved in citing his mental health issues.

His mental health problems were mostly a result of the abuse he faced. Now, you can say he had the same issues going back to high school, but they are also a result of being picked on and bullied.

If he has mental health issues, so would 90% of the population, if forced to face similar circumstances.

 

[Dick Whitman]

His mental health problems were mostly a result of the abuse he faced.

Isn't mental illness a purely physical disease, though, like the common cold or flu?

How can a person CAUSE someone else's mental health problem? I guess they can exacerbate it?

It's a really murky area.

 

[Boom_70]

A lot of BS involved in citing his mental health issues.

His mental health problems were mostly a result of the abuse he faced. Now, you can say he had the same issues going back to high school, but they are also a result of being picked on and bullied.

If he has mental health issues, so would 90% of the population, if forced to face similar circumstances.

Be great if we learned that the mental abuse all started at Stanford with Richard
Sherman when he would force Marting to drink with him at Applebee's

 

[Mizzougrad96]

After reading the report, it's going to be hard to imagine Martin playing in the NFL again unless he's on a team like the Colts or 49ers where the coaches have a past with him.

It is obvious that Incognito and the others went way over the line with Martin and Player A. But the report does not make Martin look very sympathetic. It sounds like he was involved in teasing other players and wasn't exactly a completely innocent victim. The history of being bullied and mental health issues will be a huge red flag. There are numerous references to him abusing alcohol and recreational drugs.

Yeah, gee, a player who drinks and uses drugs has no place in today's NFL.

You want so badly for your prediction to come true that you are making up some weird reasons here.

Based on the report, my prediction about Martin being gay is very likely not true, especially since he participated in some of the torment of Player A.

I was referring to the mental health issues, more than the drinking and drug use, but that factors in as well...

 

[Mizzougrad96]

A lot of BS involved in citing his mental health issues.

His mental health problems were mostly a result of the abuse he faced. Now, you can say he had the same issues going back to high school, but they are also a result of being picked on and bullied.

If he has mental health issues, so would 90% of the population, if forced to face similar circumstances.

The report says he has mental health issues dating back to high school.

 

[YankeeFan]

As all must surely recognize, the NFL is not an ordinary workplace.

This is BS too.

The NFL is mostly a 9-5 job, loaded up with things like departmental meetings.

It's not an "ordinary workplace" because the employers haven't done their job, not because of the kinds of people working there. There are all kinds of "masculine" jobs and workplaces.

But, shouting across a crowded corporate cafeteria about the "stinky Pakistani" wouldn't be tolerated in any of them. Neither would the physical nature of the teasing Player A faced or the racial abuse the assistant trainer endured.

And, a department head, like the line coach, would have been fired long ago for his actions in any other work place.

 

[Boom_70]

As all must surely recognize, the NFL is not an ordinary workplace.

This is BS too.

The NFL is mostly a 9-5 job, loaded up with things like departmental meetings.

It's not an "ordinary workplace" because the employers haven't done their job, not because of the kinds of people working there. There are all kinds of "masculine" jobs and workplaces.

But, shouting across a crowded corporate cafeteria about the "stinky Pakistani" wouldn't be tolerated in any of them. Neither would the physical nature of the teasing Player A faced or the racial abuse the assistant trainer endured.

And, a department head, like the line coach, would have been fired long ago for his actions in any other work place.

You would never hear of stuff like this happening at Wall St type firms

 

[Mizzougrad96]

The NFL is not a normal workplace because it's an instance where someone being batshirt insane can be seen as a positive.

 

[LongTimeListener]

The NFL isn't a normal workplace?

Make it a normal workplace.

 

[YankeeFan]

His mental health problems were mostly a result of the abuse he faced.

Isn't mental illness a purely physical disease, though, like the common cold or flu?

How can a person CAUSE someone else's mental health problem? I guess they can exacerbate it?

It's a really murky area.

The report says he has mental health issues dating back to high school.

Mental illness is real, and does manifest itself physically.

But, at best, his teammates were rubbing salt in the guys wounds. The fact that he had wounds is not a defense for the rubbing of salt.

And, yes, it does go back to high school.

But, is the abuse causing the issues, or are the issues inviting the abuse.

I believe the mental health issues were exasperated by the abuse. To whatever degree they would have existed without the abuse, they appear to be manageable.