Larry Fitzgerald's dad

[Stitch]

As for my point, does anyone feel as if newspapers that are geared to minorities have different definitions of what is ethical or objective that are vastly different from the mainstream media?

 

[slappy4428]

Do newspapers that cover minorities get a pass when it comes to ethics and proper behavior in a press box?

WTF?
Last time I checked, there were more people from papers who didn't cover minorities acting like idiots in a press box. I have never seen a minority cheer in a press box, ask for an autograph or eat like a hog on free food and say they are too stuffed to work.
As for Larry Sr., I'm sure he's a proud papa but I also believe he wants to do the right thing and present himself as an unbiased journalist.

I don't have a horse in this race, but this is a pretty galling statement to make.

Galling perhaps but oh so very true Angola.

You are so full of shirt, Pinocchio. Your buddy Rob Parker fellates Joe Dumars any chance he gets. You won't name anybody because you're a liar.

Got. Past tense.

 

[JC]

Do newspapers that cover minorities get a pass when it comes to ethics and proper behavior in a press box?

WTF?
Last time I checked, there were more people from papers who didn't cover minorities acting like idiots in a press box. I have never seen a minority cheer in a press box, ask for an autograph or eat like a hog on free food and say they are too stuffed to work.
As for Larry Sr., I'm sure he's a proud papa but I also believe he wants to do the right thing and present himself as an unbiased journalist.

I don't have a horse in this race, but this is a pretty galling statement to make.

Galling perhaps but oh so very true Angola.

You are so full of shirt, Pinocchio. Your buddy Rob Parker fellates Joe Dumars any chance he gets. You won't name anybody because you're a liar.

Got. Past tense.

I still believe he's on his knees.

 

[Drip]

A. You won't name anyone because you can't.
B. I was in press boxes for 30 years. Many of them. Different sports, different places, different countries. Never one time saw the behavior you describe. If it was "many," you'd think the odds would be in my favor of seeing it once.
C. See A.

Who benefits from naming a name? heck moddy, I was once in your neck of the woods covering an NCAA event and had a fellow staffer stand up and cheer during the game.
You know a lot but you don't know what you are talking about on this subject. I stand by what I said.

This

So we've gone from eating too much to work to standing up and cheering?

What are you talking about?

is what I'm talking about, read your own posts.

Let me break it down so that you can understand.
I have seen a fellow staffer do this and he wasn't a minority. And this has happened at more than one shop.
You don't know what you're talking about on this one. If you say you disagree, fine. But don't tell me what I haven't experienced. You would be totally wrong in that regard my friend.

 

[Angola!]

A.  You won't name anyone because you can't.
B. I was in press boxes for 30 years. Many of them.  Different sports, different places, different countries.  Never one time saw the behavior you describe.  If it was "many," you'd think the odds would be in my favor of seeing it once.
C. See A.

Who benefits from naming a name?  heck moddy, I was once in your neck of the woods covering an NCAA event and had a fellow staffer stand up and cheer during the game.
You know a lot but you don't know what you are talking about on this subject. I stand by what I said.

This

So we've gone from eating too much to work to standing up and cheering?

What are you talking about?

is what I'm talking about, read your own posts.

Let me break it down so that you can understand.
I have seen a fellow staffer do this and he wasn't a minority. And this has happened at more than one shop.
You don't know what you're talking about on this one. If you say you disagree, fine. But don't tell me what I haven't experienced. You would be totally wrong in that regard my friend.

Wait, so a non-minority does this and it means all non-minorities do it? It also means all minorities don't do it?

What kind of logic is that?

 

[slappy4428]

B***sian logic, m' boy...

 

[txsportsscribe]

Do newspapers that cover minorities get a pass when it comes to ethics and proper behavior in a press box?

WTF?
Last time I checked, there were more people from papers who didn't cover minorities acting like idiots in a press box. I have never seen a minority cheer in a press box, ask for an autograph or eat like a hog on free food and say they are too stuffed to work.
As for Larry Sr., I'm sure he's a proud papa but I also believe he wants to do the right thing and present himself as an unbiased journalist.

I don't have a horse in this race, but this is a pretty galling statement to make.

what's galling is the original question. the followup statement was just drip being drip.

 

[Drip]

Do newspapers that cover minorities get a pass when it comes to ethics and proper behavior in a press box?

WTF?
Last time I checked, there were more people from papers who didn't cover minorities acting like idiots in a press box. I have never seen a minority cheer in a press box, ask for an autograph or eat like a hog on free food and say they are too stuffed to work.
As for Larry Sr., I'm sure he's a proud papa but I also believe he wants to do the right thing and present himself as an unbiased journalist.

I don't have a horse in this race, but this is a pretty galling statement to make.

Galling perhaps but oh so very true Angola.

You have never seen a minority cheer in a press box, ask for an autograph or eat like a hog on free food and say they are too stuffed to work?

Well, have you ever worked in a press box would be my question for the first two?

My second question would be: Who have you ever worked with that claimed they ate too much they couldn't work?

I firmly stand by my initial statement. Angola I would never name anyone publicly on this thread like that. Two wrongs don't make it right.

Oh, I won't name anyone, but I will say this: I have seen plenty a minority eat free food and cheer in press boxes.

I've also never seen a journalist anywhere "eat too much and not be able to work."

I've seen journalists not be able to work because they were ill, but not because they ate too much.

The hyperbole is a bit strong, Drip.

Angola, this whole thing is drifitng a bit and hopefully we can get it back on Larry Fitzgerald Sr.. It's not hyperbole. It's the truth.
It bothered me to see Stitch's inital statement which is what I responded to.

Drip, you caused this all to go off course by claiming that minority journalists don't "cheer in press boxes" or "eat free food."

Sorry, if you wanted to keep it on course you wouldn't have gone that direction.

I work, and have worked, with plenty of minority journalists and they are as good as any non-minority journalists I've worked with in my career, but your attempts to act like minority journalists are perfect, as far as ethics, is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read on this site.

Of course there are minority journalists whose actions are questionable. My good friend Rob Parker is a perfect example of that. I didn't care for Stitch's initial comment but Angola, I more than firmly stand by what I said. Sorry if it offends, but it's something that I've never seen or experienced in my ++++ years of doing this and making money for it.

 

[Angola!]

Do newspapers that cover minorities get a pass when it comes to ethics and proper behavior in a press box?

WTF?
Last time I checked, there were more people from papers who didn't cover minorities acting like idiots in a press box. I have never seen a minority cheer in a press box, ask for an autograph or eat like a hog on free food and say they are too stuffed to work.
As for Larry Sr., I'm sure he's a proud papa but I also believe he wants to do the right thing and present himself as an unbiased journalist.

I don't have a horse in this race, but this is a pretty galling statement to make.

what's galling is the original question. the followup statement was just drip being drip.

The original question is aggressive, but I'm not sure if it is galling. It is getting right to the point. It's not racist, it's just a question.

 

[Drip]

B***sian logic, m' boy...

Slappy, your instigation is well noted. What do the * mean?

 

[pseudo]

As for my point, does anyone feel as if newspapers that are geared to minorities have different definitions of what is ethical or objective that are vastly different from the mainstream media?

That's dangerous ground to tread. I would maybe say that publications geared to smaller markets might be a trifle less objective, and include my own (non-minority) paper in that discussion. We cover one town and one high school. While I'm trying to keep our coverage on the level, I believe it's still naturally going to tilt toward the hometown perspective.

Whew ... in before lockdown.

 

[Angola!]

Do newspapers that cover minorities get a pass when it comes to ethics and proper behavior in a press box?

WTF?
Last time I checked, there were more people from papers who didn't cover minorities acting like idiots in a press box. I have never seen a minority cheer in a press box, ask for an autograph or eat like a hog on free food and say they are too stuffed to work.
As for Larry Sr., I'm sure he's a proud papa but I also believe he wants to do the right thing and present himself as an unbiased journalist.

I don't have a horse in this race, but this is a pretty galling statement to make.

Galling perhaps but oh so very true Angola.

You have never seen a minority cheer in a press box, ask for an autograph or eat like a hog on free food and say they are too stuffed to work?

Well, have you ever worked in a press box would be my question for the first two?

My second question would be: Who have you ever worked with that claimed they ate too much they couldn't work?

I firmly stand by my initial statement. Angola I would never name anyone publicly on this thread like that. Two wrongs don't make it right.

Oh, I won't name anyone, but I will say this: I have seen plenty a minority eat free food and cheer in press boxes.

I've also never seen a journalist anywhere "eat too much and not be able to work."

I've seen journalists not be able to work because they were ill, but not because they ate too much.

The hyperbole is a bit strong, Drip.

Angola, this whole thing is drifitng a bit and hopefully we can get it back on Larry Fitzgerald Sr.. It's not hyperbole. It's the truth.
It bothered me to see Stitch's inital statement which is what I responded to.

Drip, you caused this all to go off course by claiming that minority journalists don't "cheer in press boxes" or "eat free food."

Sorry, if you wanted to keep it on course you wouldn't have gone that direction.

I work, and have worked, with plenty of minority journalists and they are as good as any non-minority journalists I've worked with in my career, but your attempts to act like minority journalists are perfect, as far as ethics, is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read on this site.

Of course there are minority journalists whose actions are questionable. My good friend Rob Parker is a perfect example of that. I didn't care for Stitch's initial comment but Angola, I more than firmly stand by what I said. Sorrry if it offends, but it's something that I've never seen or experienced in my ++++ years of doing this and making money for it.

OK.

But you can't do that.

You can't on one hand claim that minority journalists don't cheer in press boxes or eat free food, and then turn around two posts later and claim that you have seen them do that.

The problem is this: You made some statements that you couldn't stand by. Then someone called you on it. Then you backpedaled wildly and tried to bring out that you have been in this business many years and made money doing it, like that is an argument.


Here's what I stand by:

I've been in this business 8 years.

I have seen minorities and non-minorities eat free food in press boxes and cheer in press boxes. I'll even admit at a small-school state final in Idaho I stood up and cheered, as did the rest of press row, when some kid hammer-dunked from the free-throw line.

I have made money in this business.

So, we are equal. Though, I actually have facts to back up my posts. You just post shirt.