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Linball

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Boom_70, Feb 10, 2012.

  1. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    I'd make the case that overpaying him is probably balanced by two factors:

    1) He's one of the few guys on that roster with any upside. Unless something radical happened, like giving the whole team the "Kobe in Germany" knee treatment or hiring Phil Jackson, I can't see Stoudamire or Carmelo or Chandler or the rest of that roster getting better, since it's mostly guys at or near their peak.

    2) He probably opens a whole new market of jersey sales for the team that acquires him. The Knicks are the Knicks in New York, and probably have no problems selling out every game. But outside of Carmelo, I imagine they probably don't have a huge footprint for jersey sales overseas. Kind of like Ichiro in Seattle or Yao Ming in Houston, they've both shown that having a guy with Asian heritage on your team can unlock a lot more revenue, probably more than enough to offset the luxury tax you have to pay.
     
  2. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    They could not sign him to an extension during the season for any sort of real money as the league took the position that he didn't have Early Bird Rights.

    Once free agency began, he made it clear that he wanted to see how much he could get and the deal that he signed exploited a loophole which made it far less attractive for the Knicks than the Rockets. Good on him, but at some point you have to decide if he is worth that massive salary in the third year.
     
  3. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    The Rockets played a dirty trick on the Knicks. Their heavily-backloaded offer sheet that Lin signed would've put the Knicks exorbitantly over the cap in the third year if they'd chosen to match, and with the new rules, that's an unswallowable pill. So the Knicks have no choice but to let Lin walk.
     
  4. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    How is that a dirty trick? It's good business unless you think that they paid too much. I guess time will tell.
     
  5. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    That kind of thing has been going on for decades. During my very brief sojourn as an NBA beat writer back in the '80s Detroit signed BWS* Jon Koncak to a ridiculously huge offer sheet knowing the Hawks, who had no backup plan if they lost him, would have to match it, putting them in a bind financially and in terms of the salary cap.

    Koncak, who the previous season averaged 5 ppg and 6 rpg, wound up making more in 1989-90 than Magic, Bird and Jordan.

    Not a dirty trick. Just part of the game.







    *Big White Stiff
     
  6. Lugnuts

    Lugnuts Well-Known Member

    Ok I don't understand the Bird loophole, but couldn't the Knicks tell him during the season, "We will make you happy"?

    Instead I distinctly remember reading a quote something along the lines of, "Jeremy Lin needs to learn a few things." It was all bravado.

    Guys, I still say it's about managing the situation, and the Knicks did it with all the finesse of a complete brick.
     
  7. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Agreed, The Knicks did not near give Lin the respect that he deserved given that the team was dead in the water until he turned the ship around. When Carmelo came back and Mike Woodson announced that ball was going through him, I have no doubt that Lin deep down figured that his days were numbered with The Knicks.
     
  8. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    I understand that the Knicks can't take that kind of luxury tax hit (that third year would cost them $30m), but as Sgreenwell said, Lin was really the only player on their roster with upside.

    As a fan, he was incredibly fun to watch and after seeing the Knicks give out so many bad contracts to aging scrubs all these years, at least if they overpaid Lin, it would have been for a guy with some real potential.

    I like Lin and I don't want to have to root for him to flop. But now, every success he has will be a kick in the groin for all Knicks fans because they handled the situation so poorly. Good for Lin for taking the money. He made the right move. The Knicks? Well, they acted like the Knicks.
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    I do need to thank Jeremy Lin for a reduction in my cable bill. Do to location I'm stuck with Cablevision as my provider. For past year I've been on a deal called "triple play" which charges you $29 x 3 for Cable / Phone / Internet. My year is almost up which means an additional $60 - $70 a month. I called Cablevision and told them that I would be canceling my service because I hated that The Dolans screwed up the Jeremy Lin deal. I was put on hold and they came back in a few minutes to tell me that I could keep my $29 deal for another year.
     
  10. Pancamo

    Pancamo Active Member

    The GM who replaces Morey in Houston will trade the Lin contract in year three for picks to a team looking to clear cap space.
     
  11. Am I the only one who keeps waiting for someone to ask George Karl what was harder - beating cancer or putting up with Carmelo Anthony?
     
  12. Brooklyn Bridge

    Brooklyn Bridge Well-Known Member

    I like Jeremy Lin, but with or without him I don't think the Knicks are better than a 7 seed in the playoffs and a likely first round loser. At least with Lin, you had a young guy with upside. Now we have an aging roster and can watch Carmelo Anthony try to score 50 points a night all by himself. Knicks will be able to beat the dregs, won't be able to compete with Miami and will flop out of the playoffs.
     
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