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Mark Winegardner on the Alabama teabagger and LSU victim in ESPN the Mag

black dude with pompano said:
Drip said:
vivbernstein said:
Three different guys went to pull down their zippers and display themselves next to the drunk guy that night (two were stopped from doing it). Is that an Alabama thing? A drunk guy thing? WTF?
It's a stupid thing.

It's a sophomoric thing.

I guarantee you if you had searched "College Humor" or some other similar site for "teabagging" you would have gotten hundreds and hundreds and videos. heck, you probably still can. None of those people are being sent to prison, as far as I know, although they probably didn't commit their crimes in the moral bastion of Bourbon Street.

It is a form of shame and ridicule for someone who is passed out, similar to writing things on their face, etc.

I certainly don't condone it, but "teabagging" wasn't invented by this guy.

This. ^^^^^^^^^^^
 
dixiehack said:
Boom_70 said:
vivbernstein said:
Three different guys went to pull down their zippers and display themselves next to the drunk guy that night (two were stopped from doing it). Is that an Alabama thing? A drunk guy thing? WTF?

Alabama has a high percentage of closet homosexuals.

Troy King counts as a high percentage?

Actually you would be amazed how many people are out of the closet and good with it, even in the tee-tiny towns. Like most of flyover country, it has been a drastic (though far from completed) shift within the past five years.

You know what, scratch that shirt. Jesus I hate my home sometimes.
 
Both guys were behaving like wasted, inconsiderate frat boys.
Embarrassing public scoldings and moderate fines are enough for me.
 
Riptide said:
Both guys were behaving like wasted, inconsiderate frat boys.
Embarrassing public scoldings and moderate fines are enough for me.
I hope the guy sues the shirt out of him and Krystals. Hit them where it really hurts, in the pockets.
 
Again, a waste of taxpayer money.
Spank them both, and fine 'em both.
 
Believe it or not I don't have a strong opinion on the sentencing ----

But...

1.) This story left a lot to be desired. Like someone said it was rather shallow and didn't really contain a lot more than just the facts. Would really have liked to hear more from the teabagger's wife and family. Would like to know more about how he is being treated by people in his neighborhood/community etc.

2.) Did I read this right - the teabagger has never apologized to the teabaggee? What the heck - that should have been the first thing that was done.

3.) I could have lived with a sentence of a big fine and a couple of years probation but 10-months in a camp is OK I suppose. I think that this is exactly the kind of thing we way too often pooh pooh as just drunken silliness - but this was a 32-year old man, not an 18-year old college kid. Had the teabagger been 18-year old college kid, I'd probably say the sentence was too steep but if you are 32 and don't know any better then maybe you need jail time.

4.) If ever there was a story we could use to teach our kids about why they shouldn't drink to excess, well this is it.

I mean, in many ways the kid who got teabagged is LUCKY that is all that happened to him - he got drunk so badly that he wandered around the French Quarter - a high crime area by the way - and then passed out in a diner for hours and has no idea how he ended up sleeping in his car.

And here is a family man who got so drunk he lost his mind, along with his self respect, dignity and not too mention his job and maybe even his family (she says she is standing by her man, but, um, we shall see....), and for what?
 
zagoshe said:
Believe it or not I don't have a strong opinion on the sentencing ----

But...

1.) This story left a lot to be desired. Like someone said it was rather shallow and didn't really contain a lot more than just the facts. Would really have liked to hear more from the teabagger's wife and family. Would like to know more about how he is being treated by people in his neighborhood/community etc.

2.) Did I read this right - the teabagger has never apologized to the teabaggee? What the heck - that should have been the first thing that was done.

3.) I could have lived with a sentence of a big fine and a couple of years probation but 10-months in a camp is OK I suppose. I think that this is exactly the kind of thing we way too often pooh pooh as just drunken silliness - but this was a 32-year old man, not an 18-year old college kid. Had the teabagger been 18-year old college kid, I'd probably say the sentence was too steep but if you are 32 and don't know any better then maybe you need jail time.

4.) If ever there was a story we could use to teach our kids about why they shouldn't drink to excess, well this is it.

I mean, in many ways the kid who got teabagged is LUCKY that is all that happened to him - he got drunk so badly that he wandered around the French Quarter - a high crime area by the way - and then passed out in a diner for hours and has no idea how he ended up sleeping in his car.

And here is a family man who got so drunk he lost his mind, along with his self respect, dignity and not too mention his job and maybe even his family (she says she is standing by her man, but, um, we shall see....), and for what?
He didn't lose his mind. This guy knew EXACTLY what he was doing. He proudly pulled out his walker and rubbed it on a drunk guy. He feels remorse because his actions went viral and he was prosecuted. fork him. Maybe one cold night in the joint, Big Bubba will return the favor.
 
Drip said:
zagoshe said:
Believe it or not I don't have a strong opinion on the sentencing ----

But...

1.) This story left a lot to be desired. Like someone said it was rather shallow and didn't really contain a lot more than just the facts. Would really have liked to hear more from the teabagger's wife and family. Would like to know more about how he is being treated by people in his neighborhood/community etc.

2.) Did I read this right - the teabagger has never apologized to the teabaggee? What the heck - that should have been the first thing that was done.

3.) I could have lived with a sentence of a big fine and a couple of years probation but 10-months in a camp is OK I suppose. I think that this is exactly the kind of thing we way too often pooh pooh as just drunken silliness - but this was a 32-year old man, not an 18-year old college kid. Had the teabagger been 18-year old college kid, I'd probably say the sentence was too steep but if you are 32 and don't know any better then maybe you need jail time.

4.) If ever there was a story we could use to teach our kids about why they shouldn't drink to excess, well this is it.

I mean, in many ways the kid who got teabagged is LUCKY that is all that happened to him - he got drunk so badly that he wandered around the French Quarter - a high crime area by the way - and then passed out in a diner for hours and has no idea how he ended up sleeping in his car.

And here is a family man who got so drunk he lost his mind, along with his self respect, dignity and not too mention his job and maybe even his family (she says she is standing by her man, but, um, we shall see....), and for what?
He didn't lose his mind. This guy knew EXACTLY what he was doing. He proudly pulled out his walker and rubbed it on a drunk guy. He feels remorse because his actions went viral and he was prosecuted. fork him. Maybe one cold night in the joint, Big Bubba will return the favor.

So you think, had the guy not been completely toasted and drunk off his ass, he would have made the same choices?
 
zagoshe said:
Drip said:
zagoshe said:
Believe it or not I don't have a strong opinion on the sentencing ----

But...

1.) This story left a lot to be desired. Like someone said it was rather shallow and didn't really contain a lot more than just the facts. Would really have liked to hear more from the teabagger's wife and family. Would like to know more about how he is being treated by people in his neighborhood/community etc.

2.) Did I read this right - the teabagger has never apologized to the teabaggee? What the heck - that should have been the first thing that was done.

3.) I could have lived with a sentence of a big fine and a couple of years probation but 10-months in a camp is OK I suppose. I think that this is exactly the kind of thing we way too often pooh pooh as just drunken silliness - but this was a 32-year old man, not an 18-year old college kid. Had the teabagger been 18-year old college kid, I'd probably say the sentence was too steep but if you are 32 and don't know any better then maybe you need jail time.

4.) If ever there was a story we could use to teach our kids about why they shouldn't drink to excess, well this is it.

I mean, in many ways the kid who got teabagged is LUCKY that is all that happened to him - he got drunk so badly that he wandered around the French Quarter - a high crime area by the way - and then passed out in a diner for hours and has no idea how he ended up sleeping in his car.

And here is a family man who got so drunk he lost his mind, along with his self respect, dignity and not too mention his job and maybe even his family (she says she is standing by her man, but, um, we shall see....), and for what?
He didn't lose his mind. This guy knew EXACTLY what he was doing. He proudly pulled out his walker and rubbed it on a drunk guy. He feels remorse because his actions went viral and he was prosecuted. fork him. Maybe one cold night in the joint, Big Bubba will return the favor.

So you think, had the guy not been completely toasted and drunk off his ass, he would have made the same choices?
Zag, this guy wasn't that drunk. If he was that drunk, he'd been like the LSU fan. He knew what he was doing. Look at the video. He wanted to be an ass clown supreme.
 
Drip said:
Zag, this guy wasn't that drunk. If he was that drunk, he'd been like the LSU fan. He knew what he was doing. Look at the video. He wanted to be an ass clown supreme.

Did you even read the story?

Him and his friends were drinking for hours and that included shots and whiskey and all kinds of stuff -- and when he woke up the next morning his friends asked if he remembered anything about the night before or being in the diner and he didn't.
 
Does anyone else have a problem with stuff like this being posted on the internet and charges resulting from someone watching a video?

That part does bother me a bit.
 

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