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Mark Winegardner on the Alabama teabagger and LSU victim in ESPN the Mag

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Double Down, Nov 15, 2012.

  1. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    Doesn't mean those "hundreds and hundreds" of videos weren't sexual assault. They were. Those idiots didn't get caught. This guy did. Tough luck. He deserves jail time just for being stupid.
     
  2. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    But one of the guys who was wasted wasn't inconsiderate. He wasn't anything. He was passed out. Every dickhead who saw him (either the bagging, putting the Krystal boxes on his head, etc) had the option to simply walk on by.
     
  3. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    Well, it makes a good excuse after the fact to claim he was so drunk he didn't remember.
     
  4. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    Why both? The LSU guy wasn't bothering a soul. He was passed out, dead drunk. oblivious. In a sense, minding his own business. Doesn't give someone else the right to debase him.
     
  5. BB Bobcat

    BB Bobcat Active Member

    Actually, the teabagger did remember, sort of....

     
  6. Drip

    Drip Active Member

    Zag, that guy wasn't that fucked up. I'm not buying it.
    Mark, a crime is a crime.
     
  7. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    The place where Krystals hurt you is in between your back pockets.

    And if he sues the restaurant, what stops them from filing trespassing charges. There is no constitutional right for drunks to treat an all-night hamburger joint like it was Motel 6.
     
  8. Hokie_pokie

    Hokie_pokie Well-Known Member

    I thought this was a good story, but one that very easily could've been great with a little less focus on the play-by-play of the event -- yeah, I know, teabagging sells magazines -- and more emphasis on the fallout for both the perp/victim and their families.

    I especially wanted to hear more from the wife. As a married guy myself with two kids, I can't imagine how she must feel, realizing a guy she thought she knew so well was capable of doing something like that. I think the writer missed a chance to really get into the heart of this story by mostly leaving her out of it.

    Also, I would've liked a much deeper examination of the mob mentality that allows shit like this to happen in so many cases. Maybe I'm wrong for being so, but I'm almost as pissed-off at the fucking cowards in the Krystal who had a chance to do something to help the passed-out kid and instead chanted "Roll Tide."

    What the fuck is wrong with people?
     
  9. Drip

    Drip Active Member

    He was a customer in the restaurant. Albeit a drunk customer, but he deserved to be protected by management. And it didn't help that a Krystals employee watched the whole thing and did nothing. Sue! Sue! Sue!
     
  10. Bamadog

    Bamadog Well-Known Member

    Agreed on the fourth point. I remember I was covering the New Orleans Bowl. I was in traffic in the French Quarter where I was going to meet my uncle at a restaurant. This guy comes running warp speed past my car. Then I hear, "Stop, thief."

    If only I would've heard that earlier and I would've stopped the guy with my car door. I hate thieves. Wandering around drunk late at night is just asking to be mugged or worse.

    Nothing good comes of drunkeness. Nothing good occurs after 1 a.m., unless your wife wakes you up and says she's in the mood. Then that's okay.

    As an Alabama grad, I'm just disgusted and embarrassed about this grotesque assault. But the thing that really upsets me is that so many Alabama people in the Krystal's that night were just standing and watching. Didn't anyone have the cojones (no pun intended) and moral fortitude to say "Dude, not cool," and restrain that idiot? I think he got off lightly. That's a sexual assault, no matter how you color it.

    I don't see the big deal about an apology, especially if it's the kind that are around these days with no sincerity. They're more I'm sorry I got caught than anything else. I think at this point, it'd be a meaningless gesture.

    My college hijinks didn't go past shaving half a friend's head when he was passed out and doing a harlequin drawing on a drunk friend's face with a black marker (not a Sharpie). The part with the eyes was particularly difficult.
     
  11. Bamadog

    Bamadog Well-Known Member

    Agree 100 percent. Cowards. That's not a Roll Tide moment for sure.
     
  12. Riptide

    Riptide Well-Known Member

    Bamadog, shaving half your friend's head was battery. You could have faced charges. Roll Tide.
     
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