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Michael Sam Says He Is Gay; May Become First Publicly Gay Player in N.F.L.

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Feb 9, 2014.

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  1. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Yes, that's a good point.

    Because America isn't as comfortable yet with the gay community as it should be, or would like to tell itself it is. When this isn't breathless news, that's when we will have advanced to where we should be.
     
  2. Pancamo

    Pancamo Active Member

    Did the league conspire with Fisher, a prominent member of the competition committee, to take Sam to minimize the criticism that would have occured if he wasn't picked?
     
  3. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I have moved my theory from "tradeoff for not docking the Steelers a draft pick for Tomlin's sideline shuffle" to "tradeoff for allowing Rams to hire Gregg Williams two days after the Sam coming-out party." :)
     
  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Whoops. My bad.

    Of course, you edited the posts to remove the parts that poke holes in your argument. Must be that you can't answer them.

    You can find a highlight reel of just about every player who was drafted that makes them look great for a play or two. One big play doesn't make a small, slow defensive lineman a top draft pick. But hey, I know you will cling to that minor point for moths even though you are dead wrong on the overall argument.
     
  5. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Your theories smell of bullshit. How nice for you that they are impossible to back up, so you don't think you have to do it.
     
  6. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Nobody said he isn't worth taking a flyer on. What people are saying is that he was a late-round talent and that's right where he was taken.
     
  7. Decadent

    Decadent New Member

    That argument isn't such a good one. The sports media might think that. But that doesn't make it true.
     
  8. Mark2010

    Mark2010 Active Member

    Good heavens, let's hope not. If I was a player that did not get drafted, I would be pissed if that were true.
     
  9. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Of course, if you were a player that did not get drafted, you had signed a mini-camp contract seven minutes after Mr. Irrelevant was chosen. :)

    Just saw that ... when you're right, you're right ...
     
  10. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Oh I don't bother with any of your opinions anymore. They're nonsense and they only lead to two more pages of nonsense.

    I just like it when you have to admit you are wr-wr-wr ... although I notice this one leads to the same pattern. Whether it's a Jewish PED cheat or a drunk high school volleyball player or now a 47-page thread about a player that you have NEVER SEEN BEFORE and cannot identify on a video yet apparently feel equipped to discuss in great detail, what we have is oop always being right until he is proven wrong, but the other person stays wrong because the reason that person was right is wrong. Right?

    It's a nice Monday for me, making you acknowledge being clueless about who Michael Sam is while continuing to debate his NFL worthiness.
     
  11. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Once again, LTL draws a conclusion not supported by the evidence.

    I made a sloppy mistake and admitted to it (thus proving you wrong in your claim that I won't admit when I am wrong). But that does not come close to meaning what you are trying so desperately to make it mean.

    You are dead wrong about me never seeing him before. Hell, everybody who has watched ESPN since the guy came out has seen him. And I'm not foolish enough to rely only on my own eyes to evaluate the guy. I've read and seen plenty about him, as has anybody who paid attention to the draft. He had a lousy combine and his workouts since were only a little better. He is too small to play defensive end, yet lacks the speed and other skills to move to linebacker. He is a one-dimensional player who did most of his damage in only three games, then faded. Whether that was because teams adapted to him or he wore down or whatever reason you might want to apply to it, that is not a good sign.

    You have no evidence at all to support your theory that his decision to announce his sexuality had any impact at all on where he was drafted. None.

    Bottom line is, you can't counter my points, so you want to use my error to duck them. Your conspiracy theories are bullshit that you can't support, which is typical of you. And you keep deleting parts of my posts that you can't answer, hoping everybody will be too lazy to see the manipulation.

    Also, what does Ryan Braun being Jewish have to do with anything?
     
  12. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Wait, "Gay" is now a euphemism for "Shitty Quarterback With No Work Ethic"?
     
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