1. Welcome to SportsJournalists.com, a friendly forum for discussing all things sports and journalism.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register for a free account to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Access to private conversations with other members.
    • Fewer ads.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

MLB 2014 season thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Steak Snabler, Feb 26, 2014.

  1. ColdCat

    ColdCat Well-Known Member

    You might think so but the Reds have plenty of non-pitchers on their roster flirting with the Mendoza line.
    You might think that pitching a no-hitter or perfect game would be easier without the DH, but we're talking about two at bats out of 27 (in the case of a perfecto, slightly more than 27 for a no-hitter). In fact, since 1973 there have been nine perfect games in the AL (counting Cone's which was an interleague game in an AL park) to five in the NL. Not having to run the bases might help AL pitchers more than facing another pitcher instead of a light-hitting shortstop in the No. 9 hole helps NL pitchers.
     
  2. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Either that or a perfect game is a totally random fluke and the fact that there have been four more in one league than the other -- of the roughly 100,000 games that have been played during that time -- means absolutely nothing.

    But yeah, it must be because the pitchers don't have to run.
     
  3. Riptide

    Riptide Well-Known Member

    ::)
    Yeah, everyone's a victim again.

    He should get a lawyer and sue!! ::)
     
  4. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Not arguing your bigger point, but the light-hitting SS is there either way. It's the pitcher instead of the DH, no matter where he hits in the lineup.
     
  5. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    Have teams ever traded no-hitters on consecutive days? That would have been a fun little feat.
     
  6. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    That's not really what was happening here, though. Same team going for a second straight no-hitter, and against a different opponent.
     
  7. Riptide

    Riptide Well-Known Member

    • In September 1968, no-hitters were thrown in back-to-back games during a series between two teams. On Sept. 17, Gaylord Perry of the Giants no-hit the Cardinals, 1-0, at Candlestick Park. On the following day, Ray Washburn duplicated the feat for the Cardinals with his 2-0 win over the Giants.

    • In 1969, Houston and Cincinnati traded no-hitters on consecutive days: on April 30, Jim Maloney of Cincy no-hit Houston and won 10-0; the next day, Don Wilson of Houston no-hit the Reds and won 4-0.


    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080915&content_id=3481250&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb&fext=.jsp
     
  8. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    Good find, very cool.

    Yeah, my mistake. Wasn't really paying attention and was a little bleary-eyed this morning when the notification came across my phone.
     
  9. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    I have been there.

    re Ryu (say that five times fast): I think there's little doubt that the long bottom of the seventh, and the fact he had to make a trip around the bases, was a major factor in him losing the perfecto in the eighth. Whether that's an indictment or boon for the DH ... I'll leave that to greater minds than mine. I'm comfortable with it the way it is; I'll be comfortable with a DH for both leagues; I'll be comfortable with no DH.
     
  10. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    The guy gave up a hit, to a player who is hitting .264. There doesn't need to be a reason or an explanation for it. That's why perfect games are so rare.

    Put it this way: If you have six outs to go for a no-hitter and the next six hitters are all hitting exactly .250, your chance of getting those six consecutive outs is 18 percent.
     
  11. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    I understand what you're saying ... but that's totally removing the talent from the equation, isn't it? Ryu, if he's thrown seven perfect innings, was probably pitching better than his previous 2014 numbers would have predicted.
     
  12. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Why is there little doubt that the baserunning caused him to give up a hit?
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page