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Monica Lewinsky back in the news

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Drip, May 7, 2014.

  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    It's not like the New Republic is influential in Washington or anything.
     
  2. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    Some perspective -- there will be voters in 2016 who weren't born yet when this happened. If Hillary Clinton is derailed as a presidential candidate, it won't be because of a rehash of the Clinton years. It'll be for the same reason she lost in 2008 -- she ran a campaign of inevitability that failed to connect at any level of humanity compared with the outsider who became the front-runner.
     
  3. Liut

    Liut Well-Known Member

    I think you're right.
     
  4. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Of course she's the victim here. But it's the left that did all the mental gymnastics to downplay every aspect of the story. Every woman Bill Clinton had an affair with was deemed a nut or a slut by Clinton defenders and the mainstream media (but I repeat myself). Contrast how Clinton-affair women had the media go after them to how the media went after Limbaugh for using the exact same word on Sandra Fluke. The difference is both stunning and appalling.

    And yet you say it's the GOP that behaved "deplorably" and you still consider yourself a Clinton fan "with reservations," as though that pardons the fact that you took the wrong side. Anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows that you and everyone else on the left threw victims -- including one who made a very credible allegation of forced rape -- under the bus for politics. You don't get a pass now for having "reservations."
     
  5. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    According to Lynne Cheney, this is all a Clinton campaign ploy to get the Lewinsky story "out of the way."

    Cheney also apparently doesn't know when "1998" was and how it relates to our current times and the 2016 presidential election:

    Cheney said that releasing the story in 2014 would allow Clinton to run for president and say the story is “old news” once the 2016 presidential campaign kicks into full gear.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/lynne-cheney-hillary-clinton-monica-lewinsky-106434.html
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Took the wrong side in what? What's the wrong side?
     
  7. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    A base incapable of thinking critically helped create the disaster of the last seven years -- Obama's five-year debacle plus the head-start provided by a Pelosi-Reid congress.
     
  8. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    If you don't know that supporting a rapist and trashing the victims is wrong, I can't help you.
     
  9. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Bill bad, Bill good, Hilary bad, Hilary good, whatever.

    All I know is I could have gone the rest of my life without seeing this story pop up again. So to speak.
     
  10. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    People "in the conversation" want it to be different, want this to matter. It's equal parts ridiculous GOP politics and cable TV remembering what a ratings bonanza it was -- if you're looking for the exact time and place that whole medium went in the shitter, this is it.

    But no matter how many of those "in the conversation" people push, or how hard they push, this jut does not matter to the American people. Christ Almighty, we had a 10-year military fuck-up since then, with continuing repercussions, that the same people want to say is old history that doesn't matter.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    If the media that has access to her, doesn't ask her, and influential columnists like Ruth Marcus don't call for her to answer for it, then who will?

    And, it's not just her husband's "war on women" (cute that you put it in quotes by the way, considering it's a Dem term), she was a General in the war. She was a part of it.
     
  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    First of all, I reject the premise: "rapist." Second of all, I haven't trashed the victim. I've been supportive of her.

    Do I support some of Bill Clinton's policies? Yes. Do I admire some of his personal characteristics outside of his relationships with women? Yes.

    It's not binary to me.
     
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