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Oregonian Columnist publishes Texts

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Doc Holliday, Oct 10, 2017.

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  1. Doc Holliday

    Doc Holliday Well-Known Member

    I have a problem with a guy who publishes texts from a coach that he knows are off the record. I would never do such a thing. Personal conversations are meant to be personal and private, not shared with the world. But, this is the same newspaper that torpedoed the Oregon State starting pitcher right before the draft and the College World Series.

    I guess it's all about the clicks to those fellas.

    Canzano: Gary Andersen's exit rooted in Beaver Nation deserving better


    In this day and age, I'm positive John Canzano is quite proud of himself when the truth is he should be ashamed.
     
  2. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    How do we know Anderson didn't consent to letting the texts be published? I agree if he burned Anderson, that's terrible. But it seems they communicated prior to publication. Is Anderson saying somewhere he did not give that consent? That's bad if so.
     
  3. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    Where are you getting the idea that these texts were off the record?
     
  4. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    From the story, high up:

    That's become the question to ask, even after the Beavers' disappointing 1-5 start. And so maybe we should begin with some of his own words, sent to me via text over the last six weeks. (Note: Andersen was aware the texts were going to be published and we communicated on that front today.)
     
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  5. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    Just find it funny that the same person who said this started this thread.
     
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  6. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    "aware" isn't the same as "consented." Figure the wording would have said as much if Andersen was cool with it. I also have a problem with the lack of context of the texts. What were Canzano's replies or questions?
     
  7. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    He just let him do it.
     
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  8. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    I would like to know why the assumption is that these texts were off the record.
     
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  9. JCT89

    JCT89 Active Member

    I can see it from two different perspectives. On one hand, there's certainly the argument that unless explicitly stated otherwise everything you say/send to a reporter is on the record. But if you've ever worked a beat before, there's a good chance you've texted back and forth with a coach, a GM/AD, etc. and the assumption was that it was off the record. There have been numerous times where a coach/executive has texted me something and I've checked with him that he was cool with me using it. You want people to feel comfortable sharing information with you and that might not happen if they are afraid every time they say something to you it's going to end up in a story.

    All that's to say that assuming Canzano checked with Anderson ahead of time, which he says he does, I don't have a problem with it. But there does seem to be a journalistic habit I don't like where things said off the record/in confidence become fair game once that person is fired/dies/whatever.
     
  10. murphyc

    murphyc Well-Known Member

    We were talking about this column at work today. Why would a coach share these kinds of thoughts with a columnist in the first place, especially a loudmouth like Canzano who has no problem with stirring up controversy? But if Andersen didn't know about Canzano's reputation, that's on him for not doing his due diligence.
     
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  11. WriteThinking

    WriteThinking Well-Known Member

    I agree with your sentiment of the first sentence. There actually was quite a bit of context given throughout the story, however, even if not in the form of Canzano's replies.
     
  12. Doc Holliday

    Doc Holliday Well-Known Member

    It's clear the texts were off the record. They are personal in nature. Anyone who doesn't see this hasn't covered a college or professional beat and doesn't understand the dynamics that are involved. They informed him "today" that they were being published. That's hardly acknowledgement that they were on the record. It's bullshit but go ahead and spin it like you do everything.
     
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