Pawlenty drops out of race

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Source: USA Today

Updated at 1:26 p.m. ET

A new report suggests House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., is "strongly considering" running for president next year.

The Weekly Standard, citing an unnamed Wisconsin Republican, reports that Ryan is "open" to running because "he is determined to have the 2012 election be about big things." Another unnamed source close to Ryan says in the conservative magazine's blog that the congressman is "coming around."

"While grateful for the continued support and encouragement, Congressman Ryan has not changed his mind," Ryan spokesman Kevin Seifert said in an e-mail to USA TODAY.

Ryan is widely respected in the GOP and is architect of a budget plan that would overhaul Medicare and cut federal spending $6.2 trillion over 10 years. The House passed the Ryan budget in April, but it died in the Democratic-controlled Senate.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/08/paul-ryan-presidential-campaign-/1

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Source: USA Today

Updated at 1:26 p.m. ET

A new report suggests House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., is "strongly considering" running for president next year.

The Weekly Standard, citing an unnamed Wisconsin Republican, reports that Ryan is "open" to running because "he is determined to have the 2012 election be about big things." Another unnamed source close to Ryan says in the conservative magazine's blog that the congressman is "coming around."

"While grateful for the continued support and encouragement, Congressman Ryan has not changed his mind," Ryan spokesman Kevin Seifert said in an e-mail to USA TODAY.

Ryan is widely respected in the GOP and is architect of a budget plan that would overhaul Medicare and cut federal spending $6.2 trillion over 10 years. The House passed the Ryan budget in April, but it died in the Democratic-controlled Senate.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/08/paul-ryan-presidential-campaign-/1

Starman just choked on his own vomit.

 

[suburbia]

With all the influence of the special interests these days, it's going to be really hard to get a real moderate through the primaries... from either party

Right, which is unfortunate... I see Romney as a moderate. I see Huntsman as a moderate. I don't think Perry is an "extreme" candidate.

I do see Bachmann and Santorum that way.

I would agree with you there, my problem with Perry, much like I have with Obama and have said it before, is both are really good campaigners, but then they get into office and you realize they said all the right things and can't back them up.

Perry has done this twice now in Texas. He's the kind of guy that really loves to campaign and after he wins he's completely lost in office, I felt the same way about Obama (both good-looking smooth talkers who were all sizzle and no steak)

Obama is brilliant.

If he has a flaw, it's that he's just too cautious for the times.

Obviously, a lot of that has to do with navigating party politics and the hand he's been dealt with the makeup of Congress.

He may be brilliant but he is trampzing through Iowa giving the exact same speech that former governor Chet Culver gave last year during his re-election campaign before he got tossed aside for a retread with no new ideas (Terry Branstad).

"Green Energy."

"Main Street. Not Wall Street."

"The rich need to pay their fair share!"

Iowa needs to hear more than this to show up for you in 2012, Mr. President.

When he talks in more than sound bites, he's accused of "lecturing" and "talking down" to people.

I used to think Obama was brilliant, but the shine has definitely worn off. These speeches are nothing special. I would also like to see a little more fire and brimstone. He tried playing nice, but it didn't work.

I would like to see that too, though that has not been his M.O. as President.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I don't think there are too many people left who still think Obama is "brilliant"

I think even some of his biggest supporters have been disappointed.

I didn't vote for the guy, but I'm very surprised at how ineffective he's been.

 

[YankeeFan]

"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that? But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/region/legislature/stories/04/17/0417gop.html

From the quote, Perry's saying we have a great country right now, but if Washington does things that Texas doesn't agree with, which frankly, could be anything, then Texas would look at options on seceding.

I'd think that most sane governors would say that they love their country and would never think of abandoning it. Not this governor.

He says a movement might spring up, "if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people."

He doesn't say he would endorse it. In fact, he said, "There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it."

 

[Dick Whitman]

"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that? But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/region/legislature/stories/04/17/0417gop.html

From the quote, Perry's saying we have a great country right now, but if Washington does things that Texas doesn't agree with, which frankly, could be anything, then Texas would look at options on seceding.

I'd think that most sane governors would say that they love their country and would never think of abandoning it. Not this governor.

He says a movement might spring up, "if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people."

He doesn't say he would endorse it. In fact, he said, "There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it."

I don't see how you can read that and not see a passive-aggressive threat. Much like Sharon Angle's "people" "might" have to use "Second Amendment solutions."

I mean, she's not saying she endorses it, but, hey ...

 

[Bob Cook]

"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that? But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/region/legislature/stories/04/17/0417gop.html

From the quote, Perry's saying we have a great country right now, but if Washington does things that Texas doesn't agree with, which frankly, could be anything, then Texas would look at options on seceding.

I'd think that most sane governors would say that they love their country and would never think of abandoning it. Not this governor.

He says a movement might spring up, "if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people."

He doesn't say he would endorse it. In fact, he said, "There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it."

So Rick Perry is, at best, a concern troll. Geez, nice country you have here. Be a shame if something happened to it.

It still doesn't speak well of him.

 

[deskslave]

When you say "But ..." you pretty much negate whatever you said before but. So "There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But ..." means he didn't really mean the first part.

Then again, I suppose "Second Amendment solutions" didn't really mean anything either.

 

[Dick Whitman]

"If this guy prints more money between now and the election, I dunno what y'all would do to him in Iowa but we would treat him pretty ugly down in Texas. Printing more money to play politics at this particular time in American history is almost treasonous in my opinion."

First of all, I have attended a lecture in which staunch fiscal conservatives (academics, but still) said that Bernanke basically saved the economy.

Second of all, even if he was terrible at his job ... Rick Perry just joked, essentially, about executing the Federal Reserve chair. Joked about it. Rick Perry, the person who put an innocent man to death, then killed the follow-up investigation.

He's done. Karl Rove calls him unelectable, and he's right. Perry is the Palin or Howard Dean of the summer of 2011. Flavor of the moment for about 15 minutes. Then exits stage left for the grown-ups.

 

[Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L)]

This is one time where television really fails to capture the true excitement of a large squirrel predicting the weather.

 

[YankeeFan]

Give me a break.

The guy basically said he wouldn't get a warm reception.

He said it was "almost" treasonous. There is no penalty for "almost" treason.

It's also similar to what was said by Alexi Giannoulias about Mark Kirk during the recent Illinois Senate campaign.

Giannoulias didn't say "almost", but he did call it "economic" treason. Maybe that's the difference.

Senate candidate Alexi Giannoulias on Thursday accused Republican Rep. Mark Kirk of "economic treason" for raising money from U.S. businessmen in China the day before a vote on overseas business, prompting Kirk to label his Democratic opponent "desperate and dishonorable."

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2010/10/giannoulias-reaches-in-accusing-kirk-of-economic-treason.html

 

[Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L)]

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl. We ate lobster and drank pina coladas. At sunset we made love like sea otters. *That* was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over and over and over.