RIP Jimmy Carter

[Starman]

Hmm, I was pretty sure Reagan, or at least his surrogates, had specifically mentioned the solar panels on the roof of the White House as an example of liberal hippie tree huggerism they were definitely gonna do away with.

Along with Carter's "fireside chat" sweaters, which they were gleefully going to toss in the fireplace as they cranked the WH thermometers up to 75. Burn baby burn, crank up those petroleum burning furnaces.

 

[nietsroob17]

I've read and heard that Carter and Aaron became very good friends.

Jimmy and Rosalynn are such ardent Braves fans, so that's no surprise. One of the my favorite pics of the first couple:

(but that upcoming batting order gives me nightmares)

 

[Twirling Time]

Back then even still, you didn't have the ideological split that the current party alignment displays. You had old-line Conservative Dixiecrats like Richard Shelby and Rick Perry that a decade or more later would flip to solidly GOP. At the same time you had cloth-coat liberal Eastern Republicans who would soon be voted out of existence.

Phil Bredesen and Mike Beebe were the last of the old Democrat vestige (maybe Joe Manchin too). Chris Sununu, Charlie Baker and Larry Hogan are likely the last on the GOP side.

 

[Driftwood]

And Bredesen got his head handed to him by Big Pharma Crazy Marsha running for the Senate in 2018.

 

[Azrael]

Worth remembering that Carter was the hero Reagan pretended to be.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2023/02/20/jimmy-carter-nuclear-reactor-navy/

As was HW Bush.

 

[garrow]

Worth remembering that Carter was the hero Reagan pretended to be.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2023/02/20/jimmy-carter-nuclear-reactor-navy/

As was HW Bush.

And the authentic Christian.....

 

[Hermes]

"George A. never saw John Wayne on the sands of Iwo Jima"

 

[Azrael]

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[BTExpress]

Looks like Amy Carter has her wrists tied to the tree, and the nanny is warning her what's going to happen if she gets out of line.

 

[The Big Ragu]

Mary Prince was let out of prison to go work for the Carters and then went back to prison at night. This was the practice in the 60s and 70s in a lot of states, where prisoners were released during the day as inmate trustees to work in the governor's mansion. To a lot of people it represented the last vestiges of slavery and serfdom.

Regarding her story: she was involved in a bar fight in her 20s, someone pulled a gun, she got into a struggle with the person and the gun went off and killed someone. Then she got Southern justice. ... half-asleep public defender, a guilty plea, life in prison.

I find it somewhat interesting that for people invested in writing the Jimmy Carter hagiography, Mary Prince is evidence of his sainthood. Because in the 1619ish version of history today, America is an inherently racist place, and if it were not Jimmy Carter, I could easily see him being pilloried instead for getting himself a black slave.

 

[Hermes]

Looks like Amy Carter has her wrists tied to the tree, and the nanny is warning her what's going to happen if she gets out of line.

 

[X-Hack]

I find it somewhat interesting that for people invested in writing the Jimmy Carter hagiography, Mary Prince is evidence of his sainthood. Because in the 1619ish version of history today, America is an inherently racist place, and if it were not Jimmy Carter, I could easily see him being pilloried instead for getting himself a black slave.

The Carters helped secure her release on parole when he became president, hired her to serve as Amy's nanny in the White House and eventually was able to help secure her pardon when she became eligible (under Georgia law, you can't petition the pardon board for a pardon until you've been on supervised release for five years). She later relocated near Plains, lived near the Carters and babysat (and maybe still babysits) their grandchildren. I looked into her story because you mentioned she had a life sentence but the picture was taken at the WH and not the governor's mansion so something seemed off.

Is there a little bit of the servant/master dynamic going on? Maybe? But based on his life's work, I'd say Carter deserves a little more benefit of the doubt than if it were Lester Maddox or Herman Talmadge. Still, you do have company -- Black Liberation Army member and convicted cop-killer Assata Shakur apparently expressed a similar take on the Carter-Prince relationship in her autobiography, which I'm sure is a must-read.

Just to qualify: I didn't interpret you personally as espousing that viewpoint. I'm just giving some pushback on it.