Roe v. Wade to be overturned?

[doctorquant]

So you honestly think the Evangelical far-right are Christians, in their actions?

Those aren't the Christians to whom you referred.

 

[micropolitan guy]

Those aren't the Christians to whom you referred.

Uh, yes they are. I was not talking about anyone on this board.

 

[doctorquant]

Uh, yes they are. I was not talking about anyone on this board.

Then you need to work on your writing. Get mad, don't get mad ... fine by me. But don't go paintin' with a broad brush and act surprised when you get called out on it.

 

[micropolitan guy]

Then you need to work on your writing. Get mad, don't get mad ... fine by me. But don't go paintin' with a broad brush and act surprised when you get called out on it.

My writing is fine. The "Christians" getting bashed here are the far-right evangelical hypocrites in linked stories. Sorry if you feel otherwise, but you're wrong.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

I don't get to decide. I would like my point of view to be acknowledged as something other than an absolute religious view.
Every choice, every decision is not just statistics. As voters we get to decide about those choices and decisions. Finding abortion wrong is for me the same as any other political choice. I don't believe women have some greater political influence on this matter.

Sure women do. They're the ones who have to carry that unique other human.

 

[qtlaw]

Sure women do. They're the ones who have to carry that unique other human.

Yeah I don't get how MEN equate themselves with women on this decision. We shot some sperm, that's it.

 

[Batman]

What would Jesus say or do?
Would he be the guy flipping the switch to execute a man condemned by a human-run justice system?
Would he labor for hours under the West Texas sun to build a wall to honor Trump and keep others out?
Would he adamantly refuse to get a vaccine, claiming bodily autonomy trumps all?
Would he own assault rifles and at least occasionally carry them in public?
What would he say about abortion?

How many of his alleged followers are inconsistent on these issues?

Can't say on the other ones, but on this one it's a definite "yes."

 

[WriteThinking]

What would Jesus say or do?
Would he be the guy flipping the switch to execute a man condemned by a human-run justice system?
Would he labor for hours under the West Texas sun to build a wall to honor Trump and keep others out?
Would he adamantly refuse to get a vaccine, claiming bodily autonomy trumps all?
Would he own assault rifles and at least occasionally carry them in public?
What would he say about abortion?

How many of his alleged followers are inconsistent on these issues?

How many people -- whether Christ-followers or not -- are inconsistent on those issues?

As for Jesus, well, he might not be the guy flipping a switch to execute a condemned man. He'll be the one a person's belief in Him, or lack thereof, will send a condemned man to heck, though.

He wouldn't build a wall to keep anybody out of anywhere, not even Heaven. But He is the proverbial wall through which access to His Father, and Heaven, will be gained, or not.

He wouldn't need a vaccine, but would lament anyone's illness.

For that matter, he wouldn't need assault rifles. He certainly wouldn't use them, and would condemn anyone else doing so.

Children have a pretty exalted status in Heaven, and in Jesus' eyes. (See Matthew 18:2-6 and Mark 9:36-37, just for starters). So, as with this whole discussion, I guess it depends on when He would see the fetus as a child. And, yes, I'd think that would be, probably, at conception, and that he'd be against abortion.

 

[WriteThinking]

Yeah I don't get how MEN equate themselves with women on this decision. We shot some sperm, that's it.

Maybe because a baby, and the making of it, is as much his doing, as hers?

I know people are not thinking of when a couple actually care about each other, but rather, the less-usual circumstances in which someone becomes pregnant by force. But what if the circumstances were different? For all the people contending that men should have no say in any decision regarding abortion, would you really say that to your husband or significant other, and mean it?

 

[justgladtobehere]

We share oodles of DNA with potatoes. Are you sure about that?



Personal and anecdotal: I've seen too many young men and women raised by people who would have been better off living life as a potato to say young people can't rise above their tuber beginnings. Many of them let compassion and Appollonic ideals be their guiding principles. Unless you have some kind of gift for prescience, you really don't know how they'll turn out. Having said that, as a civilised people, we cannot make the choices for people who carry children. Don't have a uterus? You don't make that call.

I got pregnant once years, no, decades ago. I had access to help. Being privileged, I had choices. Not everyone does.

This is such an absurd argument it barely merits a reply. If you cannot appreciate the difference in the existence of a human being and a potato, I don't know what to say.

 

[justgladtobehere]

Really? Why on earth not? The sad, simple truth is that a guy's life is not impacted by an unintended pregnancy to the degree that the woman/ girl's is. It is just not. And unless you've impregnated someone, from where I sit, you don't get to say anything about someone's pregnancy. I mean the apex species of this Earth is killing it even though we need it to live. We are not all that and a bag of chips.

That woman bear children is not something we can change. It's a fact of life and it shouldn't alter how we view human life.

 

[OscarMadison]

Good grief. You can look at just the Abrahamic triad and see wide spectra of belief. Why insist on painting with such a broad brush when it comes to Christians?