Running gun violence thread

[Morris816]

Now the Ferguson chief is saying the robbery and the shooting aren't related because the cop wouldn't have known there was a robbery. So why release that video, except for some ham-handed attempt to smear the victim?

According to the chief, 911 got the call about the robbery at 11:51 a.m. The initial contact between Brown and the officer took place at about 12:01 p.m.

Did the police department ever mention where the store was located? If so, in what proximity is it to the location where the officer contacted Brown?

 

[Morris816]

Also, is it correct that the dispatcher gave out a description of the robbery suspects before the officer contacted Brown? If so, why is the chief saying the officer wouldn't have known there was a robbery?

 

[Bob Cook]

To clarify: in looking over it again, it appears the cop would/could have known there was a robbery.

What the chief said firmly is that he did not know Brown was a suspect. From qtlaw's link:

Police Chief Thomas Jackson said that Brown and a friend were stopped "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic."

Also, what "traffic" was there to block? They were walking down a side street.

 

[da man]

Chief also confirmed cop who shot didn't write his own incident report. This might be America's dumbest police force.

How would Andy Griffith had done it?

Andy was not only the sheriff, he was Justice of the Peace, too.

 

[Morris816]

To clarify: in looking over it again, it appears the cop would/could have known there was a robbery.

What the chief said firmly is that he did not know Brown was a suspect. From qtlaw's link:

Police Chief Thomas Jackson said that Brown and a friend were stopped "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic."

Also, what "traffic" was there to block? They were walking down a side street.

I would say the question that needs to be answered is this: When the officer made contact with Brown, did he believe he was contacting the robbery suspect?

The way the chief is talking, the officer simply contacted Brown to tell him to get out of the street. If the officer did believe he was contacting the robbery suspect, why isn't the chief saying so?

 

[Bob Cook]

To clarify: in looking over it again, it appears the cop would/could have known there was a robbery.

What the chief said firmly is that he did not know Brown was a suspect. From qtlaw's link:

Police Chief Thomas Jackson said that Brown and a friend were stopped "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic."

Also, what "traffic" was there to block? They were walking down a side street.

I would say the question that needs to be answered is this: When the officer made contact with Brown, did he believe he was contacting the robbery suspect?

The way the chief is talking, the officer simply contacted Brown to tell him to get out of the street. If the officer did believe he was contacting the robbery suspect, why isn't the chief saying so?

If the cop believed he was confronting a violent robbery suspect, sure as heck the chief would say he was.

 

[LongTimeListener]

If the cop believed he was confronting a violent robbery suspect, he wouldn't be one cop just yelling at the guy out the window.

 

[LongTimeListener]

The "strong-armed robbery" involved numerous packs of Swisher Sweets, which sell two packs for 99 cents. We're talking 10 bucks at most.

If you have never heisted 10 bucks worth of stuff from a convenience store, you've lived a cleaner life than I have.

 

[poindexter]

The "strong-armed robbery" involved numerous packs of Swisher Sweets, which sell two packs for 99 cents. We're talking 10 bucks at most.

If you have never heisted 10 bucks worth of stuff from a convenience store, you've lived a cleaner life than I have.

That's pretty weak. I've never stolen a dime from a store (whatchu want, a cookie?) and I assume most people haven't either.

And certainly not pushing around the storekeep.

I like you, LTL, but trying to justify the actions in that convenience store is utter bullcrap.

 

[LongTimeListener]

The "strong-armed robbery" involved numerous packs of Swisher Sweets, which sell two packs for 99 cents. We're talking 10 bucks at most.

If you have never heisted 10 bucks worth of stuff from a convenience store, you've lived a cleaner life than I have.

That's pretty weak. I've never stolen a dime from a store (whatchu want, a cookie?) and I assume most people haven't either.

And certainly not pushing around the storekeep.

I like you, LTL, but trying to justify the actions in that convenience store is utter bullcrap.

Boy ... if we throw it open to the group I'd be willing to bet well more than half have lifted that amount.

The pushing around of the guy is something different, but let's not act like this was a crime that ever would have resulted in a felony -- or any charges even. AND it had nothing to do with the stop.

 

[da man]

The question is not only what did the cop think, but what did Brown think? Did he think the cop was looking at him as a robbery suspect? That could have affected his actions as much as or more than whatever the cop was actually thinking.

 

[LongTimeListener]

The question is not only what did the cop think, but what did Brown think? Did he think the cop was looking at him as a robbery suspect? That could have affected his actions as much as or more than whatever the cop was actually thinking.

Good point. Someone should ask him.

shirt, is that why we don't run down the street shooting at suspects (who aren't really suspects)?