Running gun violence thread

Many more want to exonerate him with no evidence.

Most of them sun burn.

 

What's largely fueled the outrage is the lack of information from the police.

After the shooting and days later, the cops still hadn't released basic details.

In the absence of information, you get rumors, speculation and anger.

Even now, basic details are still lacking. That's not because of the people in the streets. That's the cops, the prosecutor and the local leadership not doing their job.

The press is doing its job but let's blame them.

 

What do you base this on?

Who has said that.

I think people have given him the benefit of the doubt while waiting for more fact. That's entirely reasonable.

I think the idea that a cop decided to murder a young black man in cold blood, for no reason, doesn't make a lot of sense.

If Officer Wilson had simply wanted to kill a black man, he could have done it any day of the week. Why would he choose this day? Why would he do it in broad daylight, in front of witnesses.

I think it's reasonable to assume there is more to the story. And the rest of the story is how we determine if reasonable force was justified.

But, some folks want to insist that the "Gentle Giant" did nothing wrong. And when that turns out to be false, it undermines their position.

 

Cop has a temper and a God complex.

Sky is blue.

 

Who blamed them for violence?

But, seriously, what reporting has been done so far?

All I've seen from the press is stenography. They've put microphones in front of people, but I haven't seen any reporters breaking news.

Did they get the police officer's name before the police released the info?

Did they know about the robbery before police released the info?

Have we seen a good interview with a witness?

Where's the reporting?

 

I think that when all is said and done we will find out that Michael Brown acted like a shithead.

And that that did not still call for six shots to be fired at him, including two head shots.

Nor did it call for the Ferguson police to play army for a week.

 

Legitimate complaint.

It's a lot like the Tony Stewart story. Nobody wants to step out. Safety in numbers on a hot story.

 

No kidding.

A lot of cops are assholes. I would not argue this point.

But, just as there's a difference between robbin' and shopliftin', there's a a big difference between being a hot headed asshole cop with a God complex, and a cold blooded killer.

And, if you get into a physical altercation with a cop, you've made a very big mistake.

 

The Ferguson Police have not done well. The Chief looks like a boob, and they went into protection mode instinctively, instead of having an open process.

(Though, unfortunately, this response is typical of police forces. It should also be pointed out that it was mostly the county cops playing army. And only after a night of looting and violence.)

Acting like a shithead does not deserve to get you shot.

But, if he got into a physical altercation, that's a different story. being unarmed becomes irrelevant. Because the cop is armed, a physical fight becomes a life and death struggle.

 

So if the officer was 50 feet from Brown when he fired, does that make a difference to you?

 

Look up "Brooklyn" or "Chicago" and "basement files" to find out how typical it is of police to go into "protection mode" immediately. I cannot fathom how much exonerating evidence is sitting in dusty boxes in the bowels of our big cities.

A physical altercation does not necessarily warrant six bullets, including two head shots. Rodney King did not receive six bullets and two head shots. It's not an all-bets-are-off situation.

 

I think it's one relevant point of information.

The official police account had always had Brown some distance from the Wilson and the police car.

If there had already been a struggle in the car for the gun, and a shot had been fired, and now Brown was charging the officer, then I'm not sure if 50' or 35' or 10' makes a huge difference.

How close or far does he need to be away for the officer to use deadly force?