Running Regular Season 2010 College Football Thread

[Ben_Hecht]

Suck it, Masoli.

Ole Miss, by damn.

Kiss it, yahoos.

 

[TrooperBari]

Just how the heck Turner Gill got hired at Kansas is completely beyond me. heck, he had a losing record at Buffalo, his last job. Not exactly Vince Lombardi in waiting.

In fairness, Gill would likely have received far better offers than Kansas had he managed a winning record at a truly awful program like Buffalo.

 

[Ben_Hecht]

Just how the heck Turner Gill got hired at Kansas is completely beyond me. heck, he had a losing record at Buffalo, his last job. Not exactly Vince Lombardi in waiting.

In fairness, Gill would likely have received far better offers than Kansas had he managed a winning record at a truly awful program like Buffalo.

Turner started at Buffalo with a program far beyond sea level. Their effective offense essentially
consisted of the swing pass to the left, and he dredged it up fron the muck. Cupboard's bare
at Lawrence. They need to reconstruct, and if they didn't plan on giving him at least four
years to do it, they shouldn't have hired him. It can be a tough job, trying to make football
work at a satisfactory level at a basketball school.

 

[Madhavok]

Agreed, Ben. I spent four years at UB and watched how truly terrible the program was. Gill came in right after I graduated and while it took a bit of time, he made the team a heck of a lot better. Last I recall Buffalo kicked an overrated Ball State (No. 12 or so at the time) in the mouth and never stopped - mainly on defense ('08 MAC champ game). That team did have some players tho - Willy, Starks, Roosevelt running the show. Not sure what Kansas has at the skill positions.

If Gill can recruit to Buffalo, I think he'll do OK with Kansas. I'm hoping anyway.

 

[Boom_70]

Gill actualy got Terrel Pryor to seriously consider Buffalo.

 

[jlee]

Oh, well, it's Kansas. Maybe they should just go back to scheduling Northern Colorado for home openers like last season.

Haha. You know it's bad when you have to carefully pick your opening-day FCS opponent.

 

[Jake_Taylor]

Just how the heck Turner Gill got hired at Kansas is completely beyond me. heck, he had a losing record at Buffalo, his last job. Not exactly Vince Lombardi in waiting.

In fairness, Gill would likely have received far better offers than Kansas had he managed a winning record at a truly awful program like Buffalo.

Turner started at Buffalo with a program far beyond sea level. Their effective offense essentially
consisted of the swing pass to the left, and he dredged it up fron the muck. Cupboard's bare
at Lawrence.

I got to disagree. The cupboard isn't that bare. There's not Big 12 championship talent out there, but the guys starting for KU last night were players that plenty of other BCS conference teams wanted. The guys wearing blue never even considered going to a school such as NDSU. This wasn't like 2002 when Mangino took over and only had two or three guys any other Big 12 team would have taken.

NDSU was well aware that Gill's offense consists of "swing pass to the left" and run it up the middle and was fully prepared to stop it. KU made no adjustments and was shockingly unprepared. I hope this was just growing pains and it will get better, but KU last night was one of the poorest-coached football team I have ever seen. Obviously the guy gets more than one game to show what he's got, but if it doesn't get better KU will go 0-12 and I'm not sure he's going to get more than one season if that's the case.

 

[Mark2010]

Kansas played in the Orange Bowl three years ago.

 

[Bubbler]

Is it ever OK to get rid of a coach after one game? I wonder if KU could get Mike Leach to come in a finish out the season. This isn't like losing to Appy State or Richmond. NDSU was a bad Missouri Valley team last year.

I'll throw NDSU a bit of a bone. Until last year, they were one of the better programs in the FCS, making a lightning-quick transition from Division II early in the 2000s.

Ask Minnesota how good NDSU is. They got beat by them too a few years ago. And while KU won't want to hear it, KU is to the Big 12 as Minnesota is to the Big 10 in football.

NDSU had a down year in 2009 because it had some pretty serious dissension behind the scenes. I don't know if that's been solved or not, but apparently, it was for one game.

But having said all of that, KU should not be losing to a FCS team. It's just that this particular FCS team isn't as bad as you might be making them out to be.

 

[Jake_Taylor]

Is it ever OK to get rid of a coach after one game? I wonder if KU could get Mike Leach to come in a finish out the season. This isn't like losing to Appy State or Richmond. NDSU was a bad Missouri Valley team last year.

I'll throw NDSU a bit of a bone. Until last year, they were one of the better programs in the FCS, making a lightning-quick transition from Division II early in the 2000s.

Ask Minnesota how good NDSU is. They got beat by them too a few years ago. And while KU won't want to hear it, KU is to the Big 12 as Minnesota is to the Big 10 in football.

NDSU had a down year in 2009 because it had some pretty serious dissension behind the scenes. I don't know if that's been solved or not, but apparently, it was for one game.

But having said all of that, KU should not be losing to a FCS team. It's just that this particular FCS team isn't as bad as you might be making them out to be.

Fair enough, you obviously know more about it than I do, but I wasn't at all impressed by NDSU's speed or athleticism.

 

[John]

Is it ever OK to get rid of a coach after one game? I wonder if KU could get Mike Leach to come in a finish out the season. This isn't like losing to Appy State or Richmond. NDSU was a bad Missouri Valley team last year.

I'll throw NDSU a bit of a bone. Until last year, they were one of the better programs in the FCS, making a lightning-quick transition from Division II early in the 2000s.

Ask Minnesota how good NDSU is. They got beat by them too a few years ago. And while KU won't want to hear it, KU is to the Big 12 as Minnesota is to the Big 10 in football.

NDSU had a down year in 2009 because it had some pretty serious dissension behind the scenes. I don't know if that's been solved or not, but apparently, it was for one game.

But having said all of that, KU should not be losing to a FCS team. It's just that this particular FCS team isn't as bad as you might be making them out to be.

NDSU might have won the FCS national title in 2007 if it had been eligible for the playoffs, but it hadn't yet made the full jump from D-II.

 

[exmediahack]

NDSU doesn't have much speed or athleticism but they do have a bunch of "strong kids". Imagine 11 Jim Kleinsassers hitting people. That's Bison football.

I watched their 2006 and 2007 games at Minnesota. They lost the 2006 game 10-9 on a missed FG and won the 2007 game (doubled up the Goofers on total yardage, IIRC). Those two games, NDSU was one of the best coached teams I had EVER watched in college football. Ever.

Whatever issues they had in 2009, I can't speak about.