Running Shooting Thread 2024

Two of the suspects are juveniles, which probably explains why they haven’t been ID’d publicly yet.

 

Kansas City Police Chief Stacey Graves: "The people who came to this celebration should expect a safe environment. We had over 800 law enforcement officers—Kansas City and other agencies—at the location to keep everyone safe. Because of bad actors—which were very few—this tragedy occurred."

Can I ask what the fuck were 800—800—police officers doing that couldn't stop 3 people from shooting up a parade? What were they doing that it took civilians tackling a shooter? How could those three people still be alive if 800 police officers were there. That's supposedly 800 "good guys with guns" to stop the bad guys with guns. 800.

Fuck anyone who thinks more guns will stop bad people from doing things. Fuck anyone who thinks we can't solve this, because we can. Fuck the NRA. Fuck Republicans. Fuck gun manufacturers. Fuck all of them.

We need passed tomorrow:

• Red flag laws to let people deemed threats to have their guns taken
• Immediate assault rifle ban. No more buying or selling. If you have them already, they need to be immediately registered in a national registration database.
• Mandatory insurance for gun ownership and the gun owner is held liable in the event of a shooting
• A national ban on stand your ground laws and cases of self defense must be proven to a judge
• Elimination of all civil suit protections against gun manufacturers
• A limit on the purchase of ammunition
• An immediate national ban on open cary
• An immediate national database on any concealed carry permits that includes a national background check on applications
  • Municipalities can still control CCWs and their issuance provided anyone who has one gets placed on a national registry

And I couldn't give two shits about gun rights or "responsible gun owners." We have seen what the status quo gets us and we see what "if you make guns illegal, then only criminals would have them" does for the safety of everyone. Fuck your feelings, fuck your guns and fuck Donald Trump. Good night.

 

Disarm most police, too. It works pretty much everywhere else.

 

Did I see that one of the KC parade shooters had an AK with him?

 

Kansas City shooting full coverage: Police say 'dispute between several people' led to gunfire at Chiefs Super Bowl parade

"Navy veteran Tony Janssens told People that he started running after he heard gunshots a few feet away during the Chiefs Super Bowl parade at Union Station. He said he then into the back of one of the suspects, who was holding what he said was a bag of guns.

“I saw a guy laying on the ground with about four shots on his side," Janssens says.

He sprinted through the crowd, urging people to evacuate, and while doing so, he says he ran into the back of a person holding a bag. “He’s missing his jaw. He had been shot in the face and his whole jaw was missing,” Janssens says.

Janssens says that at the time, he “didn't know if this guy needed help, as a victim, if he was just a bystander, or if he was actually part of the shooting.”

Janssens says he watched the man pass a bag to two men wearing big, heavy jackets — which seemed suspicious in the 65-degree weather.

“It just didn’t make sense,” he says.

Janssens found a law enforcement officer and led him to the three suspicious-looking men.

As Janssens and the officer approached, Janssens says men started running, and Janssens and the officer ran after them.

“We are running down the street and I'm yelling just, 'Hey, this is the guy,'” Janssens says. “Tackle him! Tackle him!”

“Three other brave individuals heard me and thankfully stepped up when they needed to and tackled him,” Janssens says.

Janssens says he saw an array of guns in the man’s backpack, including what looked to be an assault rifle with an extended clip."

 

Here is a terrific, informative and compelling numbers-based article from CNN on guns and gun violence in the U.S. as compared to the rest of the world. Everyone in this country should read it -- particularly our government.

Fuck the NRA, indeed.

We are making literally no sense with our insistence on Second Amendment rights at this point.

How US gun culture stacks up with the world | CNN

 

“The law enforcement response was exemplary. Those in attendance also responded,” Graves added.

Fuck that. The response of bystanders was exemplary.

 

Two cops and a firefighter medic killed in domestic incident in Minneapolis suburb Burnsville this morning.

In Cape Town and the day of the K.C. shooting my sister-in-law asked if I'm afraid every time I step out the door of being shot. Completely serious. Of course many people hear the words South Africa and think similar thoughts. I told her no. I don't live in fear of it because I can think pretty rationally about it. Similar to when I told my mom I wasn't worried about terrorist attacks when moving to NYC. First, as horrific as the stranger pulling off mass shootings in public are, they're still rare. So there's not much chance of one happening. There's even less of a chance of one happening in a place I frequent. And there's even less of a chance of one happening at a place I frequent at the exact moment I'm there.

So not afraid of it and yet...certainly would never be shocked if caught up in one. And definitely at movies or sporting events I definitely know where the exits are. Of course there are also the incidents like KC when idiots solve their problems with guns and bystanders get hit. I saw there was a subway shooting last week in NYC and an innocent guy got drilled and killed.

Also it is nice to be somewhere, like SA, which, even though it's riddled with problems including crime and has tons of shootings as well, it doesn't have, so far anyway, the random mass shootings that are a part of American life.

The one New York incident we had happened as we were eating at a diner half a block from our apartment. Heard what I thought was firecrackers but then people went running by. Finish lunch, go back to the building and dozens of cops are there. A guy on our floor was the victim of a home invasion. The idiots who tied him up and beat him up heard sirens and thought the cops were coming for them, not realizing that's a very common sound in NYC. So they climbed down the fire escape to get out. Our neighbor got loose, retrieved his handgun and fired down the escape, hitting one of them in the ass.

Uh, okay!

A few days later he put a sign in our elevator apologizing for the chaos but assuring us he checked to make sure no one was walking on sidewalk when he unloaded. Also he was a "trained sharpshooter" so at no time was anyone other than the perps in danger. He wrote it in Spanish and English so the whole building could understand.

Neighbors who are trained sharpshooters--sure--firing down onto Broadway in the middle of the day.

Welcome to America.

 

That'll teach 'em

 

So a good guy with a gun didn’t stop a bad guy with a gun? Shocking.

 

Two adults charged in the KC parade shooting.

2 adults charged with murder in parade shooting

 

Honestly, I understand you charge what you can win and I want my vengeance but that’s as gods as you can do. But shouldn’t we charge them when terrorism? You pop off in a large crowd even if you have a specific target, it’s off to Guantanamo for it ass. Make people think twice.

Oh and gun laws but you know