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State of California is broke

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by poindexter, May 31, 2012.

  1. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    They don't keep track of $37 billion.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_21150190/state-parks-scandal-honor-system-used-keep-track?source=rss

    And this is just the stuff we know about.


    You voting yes on Prop 30, Lancey?
     
  2. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    We know the State of California needs a consolidated accounting system. But do really think that those special funds have 16 billion sloshing around? I have not seen the number but what are the total annual revenues for the two park funds? And 54 million is what percent of that?

    To use another example do you think we should slash Medicare or the Pentagon (choose according to your idealogical preference) because the Federal government can not successfully consolidate thier books? And they can't.
     
  3. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    I have no clue whether there is 16 billion sloshing around. Or how many other fiscal malfeasances the state has (there aren't enough newspapers to uncover them all). The state has the second highest income tax rate in the country, and the highest rate starts at around $42,000. Sales tax is the highest in the nation. Gasoline tax among the highest in the nation. I don't want to pay more taxes with these stumblebums at best, crooks at worst, in charge.

    The medicare/pentagon subject is for another thread.
     
  4. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Hey, what's $2.3 billion among friends?

    http://www.mercurynews.com/california-budget/ci_21168552/up-2-3-billion-california-public-funds-hiding

    SACRAMENTO -- A week after uncovering a hidden-funds scandal at the state parks department, finance officials are now trying to piece together why the balance sheets for similar "special funds" are off by $2.3 billion -- money that appeared to be right under their noses amid California's financial meltdown.

    And a special bonus: While hiding that $54 million, the state was begging environmental groups and charities for money to keep parks open. Now those groups want their money back.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_21168426/donors-who-bailed-out-state-parks-want-their?source=pkg
     
  5. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    So lets recap for a minute.

    In 2010, the citizens were given an initiative, Prop 21. Raise car taxes an additional $18 per car, because, we were told, the state parks were broke. No money. Have to close parks, reduce hours, higher fees per entry.

    It didn't pass.

    http://www.ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/California_Proposition_21,_Vehicle_License_Fee_for_Parks_%282010%29

    Now we find out, that the parks have plenty of money. A $54 million surplus they told nobody about.


    Yet, incredibly, we have people here, some who live on the other side of the country, who tell me we need MORE taxes.

    Just unreal.
     
  6. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    How much is the annual state parks budget?
     
  7. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Good luck with that tax increase, Jerry.
     
  8. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Here's who is backing Prop 30, the November tax increase initiative.

    http://www.kcet.org/news/ballotbrief/elections2012/propositions/database-whos-funding-prop-30-temporary-tax-to-fund-education.html

    Teachers unions, Service employee unions, other various unions.
     
  9. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    $2 billion. That we know about.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_21172870/2b-california-taxpayer-money-special-funds?refresh=no

    Small potatoes. Not the poster.
     
  10. rmanfredi

    rmanfredi Active Member

    I almost drove my car off the side of the road the other day when I heard Governor Moonbeam say at a press conference (to paraphrase): hey, I'd rather that it turns out that we had more money than we thought than less!
     
  11. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    You can't make this up:
    "State finance officials operate under a longtime honor system."

    Prop 13 problem.
     
  12. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    Even I can't defend this BS.

    http://www.laobserved.com/biz/2012/08/the_stockton_police.php

    Some point soon either all the municipalities will need to file for bankruptcy en masse, or the voters will need to hold accountable the crooks who signed off on pensions like these.
     
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