Stillers Fans at DEFCON 1- Big Ben Accused Again (Update- No Charges Filed)

Even if one party forces himself or herself on the other party?

 

Then, of course, it's rape.

 

I believe the Georgia law is written specifically to say that a woman cannot consent to sex while intoxicated. Whether the guy is intoxicated is irrelevant the way the law is written.

That may be sexist, and you may say "to me, two intoxicated people having sex is not rape" but under the legal letter of the law, I'm not sure it works that way.

Now, getting a conviction is another matter entirely. But from what I understand, that is how the law is written. That is the case in a lot of states.

 

I won't bother correcting your facts on the Worthy incident. You're as informed on that as you are on golf.

Both Kobe Bryant and James Worthy should have been suspended, if David Stern was a commissioner who made it his mission to "clean up the league" following a predecessor's impotence. And if either offense was part of a pattern.

Neither condition was true, but if Stern or Jerry Buss felt a suspension was warranted, I wouldn't have argued it like an overheated fandork.

I'll ignore the Magic Johnson line. Seriously? Punished for getting HIV? You're comparing that to sexual assault?

 

If that's the way the law is written, that's the way it's written. I think, however, most state laws now just refer to a "person," not gender, since the '70s (as much to include homosexual male rape, I'd imagine, as to cover a situation like this).

Also - it is batshit insane if one person can be prosecuted and convicted for having mutually drunk sex. I'm going to look that up.

 

Not to speak for him, but I think he's advancing the Magic comparison given that Roethlisberger's sex was consensual and not assault.

 

There's nothing random about this. The NFL's been doing this for years, with Roethlisberger simply being the latest example. Pacman Jones was not found guilty of anything and got suspended, but not many people objected to that.

 

We coddle athletes far too much. Maybe taking away the one thing that they love (their money) would send a message to them.

 

You keep saying that it was consensual.

Were you not also saying a couple of pages ago that we don't know what happened in the bathroom?

How do you know it was consensual?

The young woman made a statement that it wasn't.

 

For how long? 20 games? 1/4 of the season. IIRC, they were both arrested, which still has not happened here.

How old were you when Magic got HIV?

Half of America thought he was gay or a drug user, and if you want to talk moral clauses, getting HIV in 1990 or 1991 was pretty taboo for a good portion of America. But if we try to play moral police...

 

Given the details provided by the victim -- and again, with no intent for a big payday on her end -- how can one call this consensual? It appears to be the complete opposite.