Take care of yourself

[cranberry]

Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

My personal view is that athletes should be allowed to use anything they want as long as it is legal, just like anybody else. They are grown-ups.

Better education efforts are admirable. However, trying to regulate/ban substances is a useless exercise that typically brings about more problems and controversy than it's ever prevented, too. Show me a drug testing program and I'll show you a drug testing program that doesn't work.

I also wish more people would consider the fact that, altruistic mumbo jumbo aside, the World Anti-Doping Agency and deck Pound have a lot invested in drug testing and its continued use.

 

[21]

Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

Cranberry: What's legal? Legal in Czech Republic? Legal in Germany? You'd never be able to control what happens with Olympic athletes, for sure.

As for our pro sports, you're basically dealing with athletes who lack any sort of education on the subject of performance enhancement, except that it may make them bigger and faster. Who do they rely on for information....the team doctor/trainer, who is paid to get these guys on the field in the best possible form?

 

[cranberry]

Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

Cranberry: What's legal? Legal in Czech Republic? Legal in Germany?  You'd never be able to control what happens with Olympic athletes, for sure.

As for our pro sports, you're basically dealing with athletes who lack any sort of education on the subject of performance enhancement, except that it may make them bigger and faster. Who do they rely on for information....the team doctor/trainer, who is paid to get these guys on the field in the best possible form?  

21, I'm kind of surprised. A couple days ago you were telling everyone to lean on athletes they cover for training and nutrition advice. How did they get stupid so fast?

My experience (as you suggested the other day) is that a lot of guys take it upon themselves to learn a lot about training and what they're putting into their bodies as part of their training.

As to whom they should rely on, how about their own personal physicians, nutritionists and trainers?

As evidenced by the Bechler death this spring, there are a lot of hypocrites out there talking about protecting athletes, but forgetting that their own kids have just as much access to these substances, many of which are sold over the counter.

Education is not just the best answer, it's the only answer.

 

[21]

Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

21, I'm kind of surprised. A couple days ago you were telling everyone to lean on athletes they cover for training and nutrition advice. How did they get stupid so fast?

Cran--I can work out and eat with athletes. I just don't want to take drugs with them.

 

[Boom_70]

Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

Doc What guidlines do you have to operate under to prescribe anabolic steroids? Is their a gray area that would allow you to write prescription to athlete for the purposes of "recovery" ?

 

[DocTalk]

Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

Cran,

Most medication is legal in context.

Inderal is a beta blocker that slows the effects of adrenalin on the body. Speakers use it in front of large crowds to calm their nerves. It gives a great advantage to those in shooting sports,where even minor tremors cause championships to be lost.

Growth hormone has some wonderful uses, but in people whose bones have stopped growing, causes some major difficulties.

Cocaine can certainly boost metabolism and is a wonderful drug in the treatment of nosebleeds. Little old ladies wonder what the fuss is about when you put in up their noses.

In horseracing, Lasix (a medication used in humans for blood pressure control and congestive hear failure) is banned. But then, horse have always been valued much more highly than humans.

Studies of athletes have shown that they would give up five years of their life by using a drug aid in exchange for a gold medal. The search for gold has always been a risky endeavor.

 

[21]

Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

Doc What guidlines do you have to operate under to prescribe anabolic steroids? Is their a gray area that would allow you to write prescription to athlete for the purposes of "recovery" ?

You are scaring me.

 

[Boom_70]

Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

You are scaring me.

Doc where can I get some Viagra?

 

[21]

Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

Taxi!

 

[Boom_70]

Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

Hey we better stop before the content police notice.

Seriously -- It is my theory that their are athletes who are taking steroids under Dr care but just would never be able to admit due to PR problem .

 

[Cosmo]

Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

Look, why would any of us need to take creatine, roids, etc? Most of us aren't training for professional competition (with apologies to the marathoners among us). We're just trying to stay in good shape. For that, you just need to eat well, maybe take some protein supplements and work out regularly.

At least that has worked for me.

 

[Boom_70]

Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

Look, why would any of us need to take creatine, roids, etc? Most of us aren't training for professional competition (with apologies to the marathoners among us). We're just trying to stay in good shape. For that, you just need to eat well, maybe take some protein supplements and work out regularly.

At least that has worked for me.

I want to look like David Boston.