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Teacher Opposed to Gay Marriage Could be Fired

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by sportbook, Aug 19, 2011.

  1. CarltonBanks

    CarltonBanks New Member

    Dick, go brush up on your landmark First Amendment cases, then get back to me.
     
  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    That's not what prior restraint means.
     
  3. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    How is the college kid more protected than the teacher?

    He could get fired from his job.

    He could get disciplined by his school, presumably, depending on the circumstances.
    [/quote]Dick, go brush up on your landmark First Amendment cases, then get back to me.
    [/quote]

    I am well aware of the case you're talking about. More aware than you are. The kid is not any more protected than the teacher her. No one is trying to jail or arrest the teacher.

    So I ask you again: How was the "Fuck the Draft" plaintiff more protected under the First Amendment than this teacher? How?
     
  4. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    Lots of religious faiths view drinking alcohol as a sin.

    All of them SHOULD view divorce as a sin, since that's in the New Testament just like the homosexuality stuff. Yet most churches I know of would happily perform second marriages (which, IIRC, is Biblically worse than just being divorced, isn't it?).

    Point is, call it a sin all you want. Just don't ask what is supposed to be a nonsecular government to uphold your particular world view, not when it comes at the clear expense of others and with no clear benefit to you.
     
  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Upcoming appearance at a local church on behalf of free speech a public relations blunder?

    http://www.dailycommercial.com/localnews/story/082311TeacherToSpeak

    Interesting to see his students commenting.

    Additionally vexing that he's a "social studies" teacher?
     
  6. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Unless he made reading his Facebook posts a requirement of his class, I'd still consider that indirect.
     
  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    If he said the same thing to one of them in the lobby of a movie theater, still 'indirect?'
     
  8. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    No. But if he said it to a large group of people and they happened to be in the group, yes.

    And if it was directly to the student in the movie theater, I'd want to know why he was talking to the student. Does he have reason to know the student outside of his status as a student (say, the child of a family friend that he's known for years?), and who initiated the conversation? The student or the teacher?
     
  9. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    So if you worked at a restaurant, say, and you posted on your Twitter account that people should eat there at their own risk because a lot of dirty Mexicans worked in the kitchen, you think that sort of free expression should be encouraged and that you should not face any type of discipline at work?
     
  10. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    If you mention your restaurant by name and your twitter account mentions that you work there, probably.

    If you say something like "I hate working with dirty Mexicans all day," I'm going with "no."
     
  11. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Well I'd fire you.
     
  12. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    A lot of people would. A lot of people don't respect free expression as much as I'd like.
     
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