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The Biggest LOOSER -- running weight loss thread

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by The Big Ragu, Mar 18, 2010.

  1. Matt1735

    Matt1735 Well-Known Member

    Been about six weeks since I updated.
    The weight loss is still good. Total of 20 pounds since Sept. 9.

    Where I'm really noticing progress is in little things, like at work, we are in the midst of moving to a new warehouse and I was able to move carts and lift boxes without feeling exhausted at the end. My heavy coat fits a lot better than it has in the past.

    Gonna hit my goal in 2011. A pound a week overall is the goal.
     
  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Awesome! Have you had to buy any new clothes yet? That's when the real fun starts :)

    I weighed in at 152.8 this morning, with a waist line just dipping under 33 inches. This is really good news, because it seems like - fingers crossed - just maybe that the fat is starting to melt away from my belly, at long last. The goal is to get to 31 and see if the abs start to emerge.

    It's been fun to go back through this thread and see where I started early this summer and track the progress to now. It's been 18 pounds and four inches since I started participating in this thread. In 2003, I believe, I weighed 215. I started 2010 at 185. I might see the 140s before New Year's. I am beyond ecstatic.

    The next few week is going to be a tough one for everyone. Remember: Moderation. And if you slip up for a night or two, just get right back on that horse.
     
  3. Matt1735

    Matt1735 Well-Known Member

    We had casual (jeans/tshirt) day at work and frankly, my jeans are just too big. But since I plan on losing more in 2011, i'm holding out as long as I can.
    I will have to buy new pants for baseball umpiring in February. And those might just be one-year pants instead of the typical two or three years, but that's a small price to pay for losing the weight.

    Matt
     
  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Just curious. A 33.25 inch waist? Do you really measure your waist to the decimal? And do you have a store that sells pants in quarter-inch waist intervals?
     
  5. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I think that losing inches can be pretty slow going. To me, it's an accomplishment when you lose a 1/4 inch or a 1/2 inch, particularly when you start getting to those last 5-10 stubborn pounds of fat and last 1-2 stubborn inches.

    Sorry, I wasn't trying to be a douche.
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Oh, to answer your other question, vanity sizing these days makes it impossible to buy any other way but to just try everything on.
     
  7. mjp1542

    mjp1542 Member

    Dick, not trying to be a, well, dick, here, just a legit question. How tall are you again? Aren't you getting close to being UNDERweight? Major props to you for how hard you have worked and the weight and inches you've lost, but be careful about how low you try to get. I'm almost sure I'm a few inches shorter than you, and if I was in the low 150s I think I'd look sickly.

    That said, I wish I had your will power and drive! I'm into working out and trying to be healthy, but not at your level.
     
  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    The will power and drive are a little easier when the gym is like four blocks from your house like mine is!

    To answer your question, I'm 5-foot-9. For what's it's worth, this chart:

    http://www.healthchecksystems.com/heightweightchart.htm

    ... says 148-160 is ideal for 5-9 men. That's in line with most of what I've seen out there. I've seen one reputable chart that has 132 as acceptable - probably elite long-distance runners get that low. You know what I think? I think that in this country we've probably come to accept a new normal, and that new normal is being overweight. I think, also, that you read about 100 times more alarmist stories about eating disorders than you do about obesity, when obesity is the real killer out there.

    I definitely don't look sickly at all. In fact, I still have a belly and some torso flab. What I suspect is going to happen is that I'll keep slowly - because it has slowed down considerably - losing 5-10 more pounds before there's not a lot of safe fat left to lose. Then I expect - well, I hope - to start packing it back on as muscle. As slow going as fat loss can be, muscle gain can be even more excruciatingly slow, from everything I've heard.

    FWIW, I eat about 1,800-2,000 calories a day, at least. So you won't be watching any After School Specials about me any time soon.

    I'm about 18 percent body fat right now, so there is definitely fat to eliminate. I'm just not very muscular. Poor genetics. I remember growing up my dad was really small - and still is - like 5-8, 135 pounds or so. But he always had a little belly. The term bodybuilders use is "skinny fat."
     
  9. mjp1542

    mjp1542 Member

    Ha, my gym is right across the street from my place. It's the reason I go five times per week. My will power tends to fade when it comes to eating (I do OK, but just not all of the time)!

    I can't give you much advice, but I will tell you this: You'll find it pretty much impossible to add any muscle if you don't start eating about 500-1,000 (probably toward the higher end there) more calories per day. Proteins and good fats.
     
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I've read other studies that say that's a myth - at least the degree to which protein is pushed. That if you eat too much, no matter what the nutrients are, you may gain fat.

    But I definitely plan to work on nutrition after the New Year.

    It's all trial-and-error, you know? Hopefully I hit upon the right formula eventually.
     
  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Nutrition shouldn't be anything anyone has to work on. For millions of years humans have been eating. And diverse cultures have accumulated a lot of inadvertant practices based on the foods available and never had the obesity problems we have today. Google Michael Polan or buy one of his books -- perhaps, "In Defense of Food." He argues that "nutritional science" and bureaucratic government guidelines crafted in ways to not offend the food marketing industry have screwed up our supermarket shelves and influenced how we eat. We eat a lot of editable substances, but we don't really eat food anymore.

    Some basic rules anyone can follow that come from him (this is off the top of my head, so I may miss some things):

    1) Eat food. Mostly plants. Not too much. (in my case, all plant-based, but I won't preach about why).
    2) Some interesting rules of thumb about how to do it he throws out there:
    a) shop around the perimeters of the supermarket. That is where the real food is. The produce, fruits, veggies, dairy, eggs, etc. In fact, real food is perishable, and much of what the food industry has done is taken out nutrients from food to make it have a longer shelf life (without the nutrients, it doesn't spoil). You get lots of calories, but no nutrients. They also have designed a lot of their faux foods to be glucose delivery systems. To get you to crave the stuff. And buy more. They actually get you addicted and you eat too much.
    b) Don't buy anything that your great grandmother wouldn't have recognized as food. This can be tricky. Your great grandmother might look at the bread aisle, and think it is bread, but when you look at the ingredients, many would make her head spin (bread, flour, water, yeast, salt is what she would have known).
    c) If you can't pronounce an ingredient on the label, or have no clue what an ingredient is, don't buy it. Secondly, don't buy anything with more than 5 ingredients (a rule I bend, if I know that they are all food ingredients I recognize).
    d) Don't listen to the nutritional "scientists" talking about wonder nutrients or vitamins or specific things you need to eat to be healthy. There are no salves. Just get a lot of variety. And eat REAL food.

    If you basically follow guidelines like that, and don't fall into the trap of cheating, nutrition is really simple. You can eat lots of different foods, get to cook great meals (we cook most of our meals ourselves -- I carry my lunch to work every day. I make 5 days worth on Sunday night), and when we go out, it is restaurants that might guidelines in terms of how they prepare the food. This is how they ate just two or three generations ago. They didn't have any choice. And he argues it's those "choices" that have screwed us up. There are a host of reasons I won't get into. One thing is for sure. They didn't have the obesity, diabetes, heart disease, etc. problems we have brought upon ourselves today. Just because medical science has made up for it for our generation doesn't mean that is a way to go through life -- obese, diabetic and a host of other medical problems, but kept alive by pills and doctors. It's also costly and a big part of why health care inflation has outpaced our ability to pay for more universal coverage.

    I'd really recommend reading some Pollan. And Marion Nestle. What they have to say just makes sense from a common-sense perspective.
     
  12. Matt1735

    Matt1735 Well-Known Member

    A few more updates, since did measurements at the gym today.
    Since early september, down 2.5 percentage points in body fat. Of the 20 pounds lost, 13 is fat
    Total inches lost in chest, upper arms, waist, hips and thighs: 17

    I'm very happy. But as I said in the previous message, the hard work continues in 2011... A pound a week is the goal.
     
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