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'The case against summer vacation'

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Dick Whitman, Jul 23, 2010.


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  2. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    Yeah, you can work long and hard hours shovelling shit but it doesn't make it more challenging than teaching.

    And no one's "bowing down to teachers" Some of us get pissed off at people who think teachers have cushy jobs and when people defend the profession, they're accused of 'bowing down" to them.
     
  3. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

    I skimmed most of the teacher hate, so hopefully these are still fresh points:

    Ok, for much of the country "summer vacation" is a relic of an era when everyone farmed. Some sections of the country still do farm and many kids still play vital roles in that. What's the percentage of the country where the rest needs to start giving a shit, I have no idea, but I know I spent many a summer day on the tractor.

    Second: Would there be additional cost associated with a new schedule? How many schools these days don't have air conditioners? I know when I was in school -- I'm 28 -- they would often let us out early on August days when it was really hot. Pretty sure all the schools I attended now have AC, but there might be a lot in the country that don't. Plus, it probably costs a lot to run them during the summer. Of course, you'd offset that some by not running the heat for two months in January ... anyway. I don't know how it would all work out, but I do wonder if it would raise costs for schools that can't afford to raise costs now. The school where my mom works added 10 minutes to every day last year so as to go fewer days and save on school bus gas.
     
  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Many schools do not have air conditioning. How much learning do you think goes on when the kids and teachers are too hot to focus? Just one of many issues with going to a year-round schedule.
     
  5. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    You see, you even fucked up my quote function :(
     
  6. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    It amazes me that people think 77000 after 30 years is a hell of a lot of money.
     
  7. Beef03

    Beef03 Active Member

    In this day and age it isn't a ton of money. It's OK money. It's better money than I'll be seeing after 30 years if I stay in this business. And you don't need to be college edumacted to make that coin or have a white collar job, I know plenty of people who make six figures in the oil patch or close to it as electricians or plumbers, not as mid level execs. but as guys out in the field.
     
  8. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Then why stay in the business?
     
  9. Beef03

    Beef03 Active Member

    Whoever said I was in this business for the money?
     
  10. imjustagirl

    imjustagirl Active Member

    In my defense, I don't talk to "each other" like this. I talk to BTExpress like this.

    Still not right, but more defensible.
     
  11. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I remember going to summer school when I was a kid. It was fun. You took art classes, sports, cooking, drama...and then California passed Prop 13 and it was cut.
    I see schools sitting empty in July and August and it seems like a waste. Instead, parents shell out hundreds of dollars a week for various day camps to keep their kids busy.
    The money teachers make is really a pittance. Easily the lowest paying job that requires a graduate degree and so much responsibily.
     
  12. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    The Time article is crap. Another example of class warfare created by the Obama administration.

    Sure the lower class is all for year round school so they have somewhere to stick their kids.

    No doubt there would be increased taxes associated with year round school - all footed by the middle class home owners who don't want or need year round school.
     
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