The end of Mark Madden? UPDATED: He's FIRED!

[ned racine]

corporate america is ruining all media,so its not shock that he got gassed....but if this was not his first warning ESPN has the right to do so.....i wonder how he is handling his adopted sons SIdney and Malkin scoring about as frequently this week as Madden does all year

 

[Flying Headbutt]

Yeah, that's why he stayed on the air for about ten years and was the highest paid talk show host in the city.......

No forking way that's even remotely true. Sports radio stations don't pay shirt to their hosts, especially one that's not considered a large market. He may have been making decent coin, but I almost guarantee you if he had a 10k raise he still wouldn't be the highest paid host in that city.

 

[markvid]

I asked a friend of mine to look quick..
Actually, Madden did an overall 3. Worse.
And considering Ellis does as well as he does, trailing Mark by only .3 while having a non-sports lead-in, while Mark has a sports leadin, well, I don;t know how else to convince you that Madden wasn't the legend he thought he was.

 

[zagoshe]

Sorry, zag, this isn't a freedom of speech issue. This guy's still welcome to say whatever he wants on the sidewalk or in the town square. But on the radio he's beholden to the standards of station ownership, to the standards of the audience, to the standards of the advertisers, and to the standards of the FCC, who holds the airwaves in the public trust.

And all of those "standards" you speak of -- well they are all continuing the trend of chipping away at the first amendment......

Hardly. Our is a market culture as much as it's a market economy. God forbid we set standards for public discourse.

You can't on the one hand keep bitching about our declining permissive culture, and then complain about how our culture's becoming more restrictive. He went too far. If he had a bigger audience, or better numbers, or more loyal advertisers, maybe he'd still have a job. But he pissed off the wrong people. The beancounters.

And if he'd said the same thing about Bush, he'd be in the basement of the Treasury Building right now, gently undergoing questioning.

Again -- please speak only about subjects you know about.

He didn't pish off the bean counters, despite Markvid's attempts to say the guy's show wasn't bringing advertisers, it was and it was profitable, which is why he lasted as long as he did.

And how many more steps like this do we have to take before we wake up one day and realize the airwaves are no longer free.

If you don't like his show or Rush Limbaugh's show or Hannity's show and think they are meanies -- don't listen.

And if there wasn't a market for this kind of shirt -- Imus wouldn't have his own show and Howard Stern wouldn't be making millions on Sirius.

 

[Rough Mix]

I asked a friend of mine to look quick..
Actually, Madden did an overall 3. Worse.
And considering Ellis does as well as he does, trailing Mark by only .3 while having a non-sports lead-in, while Mark has a sports leadin, well, I don;t know how else to convince you that Madden wasn't the legend he thought he was.

What demo are those numbers?

 

[markvid]

Spending 4 hours a day calling people jagoffs and thinking it's good radio isn't good business.

When I lived in the North Hills, I listened to Madden on occasion and this is sooo true.

Never heard the guy thank people for calling/making a good point. Everyone was a "moron."

For the longest time, I thought it was an act, a radio persona. I was DEAD WRONG.

Yeah, that's why he stayed on the air for about ten years and was the highest paid talk show host in the city.......

And Honsberger has been at KDKA for 25+ years. Please don't tell me Madden makes more than him.
I'd bet a year's salary that ain't true.
I'd bet I made more last year than Madden.

 

[markvid]

I asked a friend of mine to look quick..
Actually, Madden did an overall 3. Worse.
And considering Ellis does as well as he does, trailing Mark by only .3 while having a non-sports lead-in, while Mark has a sports leadin, well, I don;t know how else to convince you that Madden wasn't the legend he thought he was.

What demo are those numbers?

The 3 was overall, the 8 was 12-18.

 

[zagoshe]

I asked a friend of mine to look quick..
Actually, Madden did an overall 3. Worse.
And considering Ellis does as well as he does, trailing Mark by only .3 while having a non-sports lead-in, while Mark has a sports leadin, well, I don;t know how else to convince you that Madden wasn't the legend he thought he was.

I'm calling bullshirt MarkVid because I've seen the books -- and Ellis Cannon is on a station that is TEN TIMES AS LARGE as WEAE -- he gets half of his audience by accident.

Madden was not only the highest rated sports talk host in the market, he was BY FAR the highest paid.

These are two facts that aren't very disputable.

You can spin the ratings anyway you want --- Madden was on a shirt little signal and still pulled in a big audience.

He destroys Joe Bendel on a daily basis in the same time slot.

 

[Rough Mix]

What he does in Men 18-34, 18-49, 25-54, etc. would be what they would sell, being a sports talker, I would imagine. Maybe that's what they cite when making ratings claims.

 

[markvid]

Oh, ok, you said highest paid talk show host - you didn't say sports talk.
Anyway, I've been emailing someone over at KDKA Radio tonight, that's what I'm told.
But I'd still bet I pull in a better salary than Madden.
Someone who makes big money like Madden claims doesn't write $40 a week columns for small papers like he did.

 

[jgmacg]

Sorry, zag, this isn't a freedom of speech issue. This guy's still welcome to say whatever he wants on the sidewalk or in the town square. But on the radio he's beholden to the standards of station ownership, to the standards of the audience, to the standards of the advertisers, and to the standards of the FCC, who holds the airwaves in the public trust.

And all of those "standards" you speak of -- well they are all continuing the trend of chipping away at the first amendment......

Hardly. Our is a market culture as much as it's a market economy. God forbid we set standards for public discourse.

You can't on the one hand keep bitching about our declining permissive culture, and then complain about how our culture's becoming more restrictive. He went too far. If he had a bigger audience, or better numbers, or more loyal advertisers, maybe he'd still have a job. But he pissed off the wrong people. The beancounters.

And if he'd said the same thing about Bush, he'd be in the basement of the Treasury Building right now, gently undergoing questioning.

Again -- please speak only about subjects you know about.

He didn't pish off the bean counters, despite Markvid's attempts to say the guy's show wasn't bringing advertisers, it was and it was profitable, which is why he lasted as long as he did.

And how many more steps like this do we have to take before we wake up one day and realize the airwaves are no longer free.

If you don't like his show or Rush Limbaugh's show or Hannity's show and think they are meanies -- don't listen.

And if there wasn't a market for this kind of shirt -- Imus wouldn't have his own show and Howard Stern wouldn't be making millions on Sirius.

Sorry, junior mint, but if he's such a juggernaut, why'd he get fired? And who fired him?

 

[zagoshe]

Spending 4 hours a day calling people jagoffs and thinking it's good radio isn't good business.

When I lived in the North Hills, I listened to Madden on occasion and this is sooo true.

Never heard the guy thank people for calling/making a good point. Everyone was a "moron."

For the longest time, I thought it was an act, a radio persona. I was DEAD WRONG.

Yeah, that's why he stayed on the air for about ten years and was the highest paid talk show host in the city.......

And Honsberger has been at KDKA for 25+ years. Please don't tell me Madden makes more than him.
I'd bet a year's salary that ain't true.
I'd bet I made more last year than Madden.

OK, let me clarify highest paid SPORTS talk show host. And it ain't even close, not close, in this city.

And I'd be willing to bet he is much closer to Honsberger in salary than you think and it wouldn't shock me if he does better than Hons too. He made a lot of money.