The end of Mark Madden? UPDATED: He's FIRED!

[PCLoadLetter]

So once there was a backlash -- because insulting the Kennedy's is a sin in some people's eyes -- corporate had enough.

This does sort of conveniently ignore the fact that he had been told he better not fork up again because of past indiscretions. And then he forked up again, badly.

I thought it was nauseating that anyone, anywhere still employed the guy after he said the girl killed at a hockey game had it coming.

 

[zagoshe]

John is now doing 7-10 weeknights on KDKA-AM.
Stan has TV at 6:30, so no to that one.
I'd hope they move Junker and Crow to 3-7, 10-1 is a dead zone for them anyway.

You really think John Steigerwald wouldn't jump, I mean jump as far and fast as he can, to be back in the thick of sports talk on a sports station at drive time and dump the ridiculous "political guy talk" show he currently has been relegated to at a time slot when nobody even knows he is on?

You are kidding yourself.

Stan is not full time with FSN any more and has said on numerous occassions both publicly and privately he'd love to get back to his roots which are doing sports talk radio full time.

Again, you are kidding yourself if you don't think that he'd jump at the chance.

And the reason 10 to 1 is dead time for Guy and Eddie Crow is because their show is lame and pretty damn boring -- so moving them to 3-to-7 will ensure WEAE will sprial down into oblivion.

Like it or not, the only reason the station was remotely relevant was because of Madden -- and the GM and PD both know this which is why they continually looked the other way.

 

[markvid]

John is now doing 7-10 weeknights on KDKA-AM.
Stan has TV at 6:30, so no to that one.
I'd hope they move Junker and Crow to 3-7, 10-1 is a dead zone for them anyway.

You really think John Steigerwald wouldn't jump, I mean jump as far and fast as he can, to be back in the thick of sports talk on a sports station at drive time and dump the ridiculous "political guy talk" show he currently has been relegated to at a time slot when nobody even knows he is on?

You are kidding yourself.

Stan is not full time with FSN any more and has said on numerous occassions both publicly and privately he'd love to get back to his roots which are doing sports talk radio full time.

Again, you are kidding yourself if you don't think that he'd jump at the chance.

And the reason 10 to 1 is dead time for Guy and Eddie Crow is because their show is lame and pretty damn boring -- so moving them to 3-to-7 will ensure WEAE will sprial down into oblivion.

Like it or not, the only reason the station was remotely relevant was because of Madden -- and the GM and PD both know this which is why they continually looked the other way.

I'll agree about Stan wanting to do radio again, but he likes TV, which would rule him out of 3-7.
And John is on a 50,000-watt signal, with a show where he can talk anything. He likes politics, if you listened to his show on 93.7, it wasn't all sports and he lied it that way.

 

[zagoshe]

They were in bigger papers, now Madden got bounced to where he's in the Beaver County Times, a paper that doesn't even reach the Pittsburgh metro area or even the same county.

The Beaver County Times as compared to the GREENSBURG edition of the Tribune Review (which is in Westmoreland County and not in the Pittsburgh Metro area) and the Pittsburgh Sports Report (which is given out free at deck's Sporting Goods and, well, you can't find it anywhere else.....) - are you kidding?

Are you really trying to make that case based on those two publications?

Talk show hosts writing these columns for shirt little publications is about ego -- not the $40 or $50 they bring in, trust me.

Stan, John and Guy weren't making small money for their columns.
Also, remember the Greensburg Tribune-Review also mirrored content in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. So, Guy's column was always in the city.

No it wasn't -- and if you understood half of what you are talking about you wouldn't be making such ridiculous claims.

Guy's column was in the Greensburg edition and the Greensburg edition only and much of the content in the Greensburg edition did not get into the Pittsburgh edition because of the pissing matches that took place between the two sports editors. Now that half the staffs at all of the Trib papers have been hacked and consolidated, the content is a little closer between the two -- but for the longest time the Pittsburgh staff would do shirt like run AP copy instead of running the WVU or Penn State story written by the respective beat writers from the Greensburg paper.

And Guy was making chump change for that column, just like Stan was making chump change for his periodic columns in the Sports Report.

Again, if you don't like Madden fine. If you think he's a slime, fine.

But don't just invent shirt to try and strengthen your arguments when it isnt true.

 

[markvid]

You do remember Stan was doing columns for the PG, right?
Think he got $40 for those?

 

[BitterYoungMatador2]

If you're gonna send any program director packing it should have been Kevin Graham, or the guy who preceeded Graham, Bruce Gilbert. They are the ones who encouraged Madden's schtick in the late 90's/early 00's. Of course, they've been promoted to better jobs and better markets while enabled got their walking papers.

I wouldn't be surprised file an Imus-like lawsuit against ESPN/Disney. And what the shirt were they thinking having a personality like this on their airwaves to begin with?

 

[zagoshe]

Someone will snap him right up. He won't be unemployed long.

Never. He'd have had a major job long before this had he had any talent.

I can agree with you on this -- he'll have a hard time finding another job for now because he has burned his bridges with just about every employer in town, but someone will need ratings at some point and I'll bet he will be back sooner than any of us would really like to admit.

 

[zagoshe]

You do remember Stan was doing columns for the PG, right?
Think he got $40 for those?

No he was making $200 for each one of those which is why he was eventually let go -- same thing with Madden, who also wrote columns for the P-G but was let go -- what is your point?

He was also doing columns for publications like the PSR -- and doing it for the $40 or so you are speaking of.

 

[Rufino]

If you're gonna send any program director packing it should have been Kevin Graham, or the guy who preceeded Graham, Bruce Gilbert. They are the ones who encouraged Madden's schtick in the late 90's/early 00's. Of course, they've been promoted to better jobs and better markets while enabled got their walking papers.

I've never seen anyone in the business better at failing upward than Kevin Graham. He's a master at leaving town before his employer figures out he's better at talking about generating ratings and revenue than he is actually doing so. May he remain in Salt Lake City, where he fled just as they were figuring him out in Detroit, the rest of his career.

 

[BitterYoungMatador2]

If you're gonna send any program director packing it should have been Kevin Graham, or the guy who preceeded Graham, Bruce Gilbert. They are the ones who encouraged Madden's schtick in the late 90's/early 00's. Of course, they've been promoted to better jobs and better markets while enabled got their walking papers.

I've never seen anyone in the business better at failing upward than Kevin Graham. He's a master at leaving town before his employer figures out he's better at talking about generating ratings and revenue than he is actually doing so. May he remain in Salt Lake City, where he fled just as they were figuring him out in Detroit, the rest of his career.

But I'm sure that Graham used Madden on his resume as a bullet point for, "Was able to develop a local afternoon drive talk show that increased ratings and generated advertising revenue."

All I'm saying is if Madden's gonna' be set ablaze, Graham and Bruce Gilbert should at least suffer smoke inhalation for putting the guy on and enabling him.

 

[Cousin Jeffrey]

You gotta love pittsburghsportsjournalists.com. Yinz wanna another post 'nat?

 

[BitterYoungMatador2]

You gotta love pittsburghsportsjournalists.com. Yinz wanna another post 'nat?

Who yinz tink guwnuh take Mawrk's jawb 'n at. I think they should bring in Stan Savran, Guy Junker, Pawl Steigerwawd 'n drop in old clips ahh Mahhhrn 'n call it dah "Steel City Paher Ahr." I'll hang up an' listen to what chinz tink.

Thank forking God I have Sirius and am not longer subjected to that crap. Nothing says "interesting" like listening to some slap breaking down the Stillers free agent signings in effing May.