"The Force Awakens" (with SPOILERS)

[Starman]

They didn't "make out" anyway.

Leia plants a stagey steamy kiss on Luke, who reacts with bug-eyed shock. As if he realizes he shouldn't be kissing THIS girl in this way.

And Leia kind of scampers away quickly, like, "uhmm yeah, probably overdid it there." She knows there's something weird about it too. Anyway the kiss had served its purpose of pissing Han off.

Notice in ANH Luke actually seems interested in romance with Leia, with that "do you think a princess would go for a guy like me" line.

But in TESB, even after the steamy kiss, Luke pretty much backs off and never discusses the topic of romance with Leia again.

I don't think Lucas had settled on the siblings plot line when the kiss scene was shot early in the production of TESB, but later on in the movie he did, and decided the scene could stay as-is.

 

[Spartan Squad]

They didn't "make out" anyway.

Leia plants a stagey steamy kiss on Luke, who reacts with bug-eyed shock. As if he realizes he shouldn't be kissing THIS girl in this way.

And Leia kind of scampers away quickly, like, "uhmm yeah, probably overdid it there." She knows there's something weird about it too. Anyway the kiss had served its purpose of pissing Han off.

Notice in ANH Luke actually seems interested in romance with Leia, with that "do you think a princess would go for a guy like me" line.

But in TESB, even after the steamy kiss, Luke pretty much backs off and never discusses the topic of romance with Leia again.

I don't think Lucas had settled on the siblings plot line when the kiss scene was shot early in the production of TESB, but later on in the movie he did, and decided the scene could stay as-is.

After the kiss, Chewie starts laughing and Luke puts his hands behind his head and has a "yeah, the hot girl just kissed me!" look on his face.
Then once they kiss, Luke and Leia really don't see each other again. The Empire attacks, Luke leads the air defense of the base to help people evacuate and then he splits for Dagobah. They finally see each other again after he gets his hand chopped off at the end, so I'm not sure how much backing off Luke did vs he wasn't anywhere near Leia.

 

[bigpern23]

It's certainly plausible - likely, even - that Lucas had the broad strokes of the story in his mind before he even began casting Star Wars, but didn't have every detail that made it into the films. My guess would be that Lucas needed a way to settle the love triangle in a way that wouldn't hurt the characters in the eyes of the audience, and he happened upon the idea that Luke and Leia were siblings, so he wrote that into ROTJ. Just because he didn't have that particular detail worked out before Star Wars became a hit doesn't mean that he didn't have anything else planned for the rest of the trilogy.

 

[Dick Whitman]

It's certainly plausible - likely, even - that Lucas had the broad strokes of the story in his mind before he even began casting Star Wars, but didn't have every detail that made it into the films. My guess would be that Lucas needed a way to settle the love triangle in a way that wouldn't hurt the characters in the eyes of the audience, and he happened upon the idea that Luke and Leia were siblings, so he wrote that into ROTJ. Just because he didn't have that particular detail worked out before Star Wars became a hit doesn't mean that he didn't have anything else planned for the rest of the trilogy.

He did. I'm just not sure how much made it to the final versions. Some - like the Mace Windu character - were resurrected from his very early draft of what would become ANH, which was hundreds of pages long.

 

[Ace]

Moments after Yoda refers to "another," Leia senses Luke in danger hanging from the antenna underneath the floating city on Bespin.

That's the clincher.

Well, he calls to her and she says they have to turn back. So it's unclear at that time whether she is big in the force or whether Luke puts the message in her head.

She never does seem to use the force. She's more into management.

 

[cyclingwriter2]

Family guy spoofed that pretty well when they had Chris/Luke call for Tom Selleck while hanging upside down.

 

[Buck]

Finally saw R1.
Ok, not great.
Too long.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Finally saw R1.
Ok, not great.
Too long.

It's definitely way too long.

 

[Batman]

Finally saw Rogue One today. Liked it. Loved badass Vader at the end.
One thing bothers me, though.
If the two principal architects of the Death Star are dead; and the chief engineers on the project are all dead; and one existing copy of the structural plans for the Death Star (as well as damn near every other major Imperial weapon) is vaporized and the other is in Rebel hands ... then how did they build Death Star II in time for Return of the Jedi, which is only a few years after A New Hope?
That's a lot of intellectual property they'd be working to recover. Just the report on how the original failed and how to fix it would take months, if not years, since a lot of Galin's duplicity was also lost when Scarif fell.
Is it to be assumed that there's a death star assembly line out there? Or they were building two or more at once (which would make the most sense)? Other engineers scattered around somewhere who knew enough to build another one? Another Imperial facility somewhere as a backup to Scarif?

 

[JakeandElwood]

Did it explicitly say that was the only copy of the plans?

 

[bigpern23]

Did it explicitly say that was the only copy of the plans?

It didn't. They only said that plans for all Imperial ships/bases/etc. are kept at the base on Scarif. I would think the plans would need to be accessible to the teams building the thing, so I assume there are hundreds (maybe thousands) of copies floating around out there. But the Rebels know the complete set of plans is on Scarif because of Erso.

 

[bigpern23]

Finally saw Rogue One today. Liked it. Loved badass Vader at the end.
One thing bothers me, though.
If the two principal architects of the Death Star are dead; and the chief engineers on the project are all dead; and one existing copy of the structural plans for the Death Star (as well as damn near every other major Imperial weapon) is vaporized and the other is in Rebel hands ... then how did they build Death Star II in time for Return of the Jedi, which is only a few years after A New Hope?
That's a lot of intellectual property they'd be working to recover. Just the report on how the original failed and how to fix it would take months, if not years, since a lot of Galin's duplicity was also lost when Scarif fell.
Is it to be assumed that there's a death star assembly line out there? Or they were building two or more at once (which would make the most sense)? Other engineers scattered around somewhere who knew enough to build another one? Another Imperial facility somewhere as a backup to Scarif?

It would make a lot of sense from a practical perspective that the Empire would be building more than one at once. It can destroy a planet, of course, but only one a time. It's not unreasonable to think they might have thought a fleet of Death Stars would secure their control over a vast galaxy.