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The new and improved, fight-free Romney vs. Obama thread!

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by MisterCreosote, May 16, 2012.

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  1. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    With the argyle scarf wrapped dashingly around the neck.
     
  2. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Which is funny, seeing that we frequently hear of businesses firing their employees for posting their opinions about their jobs.
     
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  3. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    The Dems could not ask for a better gift than the GOP to put Fatfuck Boy on the ticket.

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    Talk about an easy target. LMAO.
     
  4. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Us vs. Them is the province of the right?

    Please.

    See that rich guy over there? It's all his fault!!!!!!!
     
  5. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    There's a lot of "fun with numbers" going on there. You start playing around with percentages and you can tell pretty much any story you want to tell. Trust me ... I'm a doctor!
     
  6. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Of course it goes both ways. To outline one Us vs. Them conversation doesn't exclude any of the others. It's notable, of course, that your response of "they do it, too" or "they started first" doesn't absolve the Tea Party of its culpability.
     
  7. waterytart

    waterytart Active Member

    You've got the blue side as me/us/right/self.

    Creosote has flipped. Suck it, etc.

    ;D
     
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  8. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Note: I am neither a Republican nor a member of the Tea Party. I am a disgusted independent who fails to see an effective answer from either side. The series of posts seemed to suggest one side accusing the other of divisive politics when in fact there is plenty of that coming from the left.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    DD, I appreciate your post. I really do. And, I understand why it makes you uncomfortable.

    But, a couple of things in my defense:

    - Starman is a guy who calls women (albeit famous people, not necessarily posters here) the "C" word, and when folks protest, his defense is that they shouldn't get into a political rumble, if they're not ready for a fight.

    - Starman made the comparison with Reagan personal. He didn't just call him a doddering old fool. He claimed to have been smarter than Reagan by the age of 22, and then amended it to the age of 10. I'm sorry if I'd like to see some evidence of this.

    Just like you're not allowed to give yourself a nickname, you also can't declare yourself to be smart. Someone else has to do that. Starman can say he's smart, but he's yet to show it.

    So far, I'll take Zombie Reagan over 22-year-old Starman.

    - It's difficult to separate personal from politics with Starman, since he is so convinced that his personal situation is a direct result, not only of political decisions made in Washington D.C., but specifically as a result of Republican policies. The only way to rebut it is too look at his personal situation.

    - The father comment? Well, maybe I went over the line, but again, with Starman, it's not as easy to draw the line. He's vicious when he speaks about people like Bristol Palin. Kids and parents are not off limits.

    He also acts like every person who's ever done well in life is either a winner of the sperm lottery, a crook, or the beneficiary of some Republican legislation designed to reward favored persons.

    So, forgive me if I find it ironic that he followed his fathers footsteps into a career.

    A young Ronald Reagan had no such option. He made it on his own. He left home, first for Iowa, then for Hollywood, and made a career for himself in a field where he had no connections.

    He took a risk, and moved far from home, and family.

    Starman has chosen to live his entire life within a 50-mile radius of the hospital he was born in. Talk about a lack of intellectual curiosity. He lives in a state that's been decimated by a loss of manufacturing jobs, but he doesn't see how Democrat and Union policies played into the downfall of his state's industry. Local politicians, and the local community bear no blame. It's all a result of (Republican) politicians in Washington.

    And, yet, he stays in his state; he stays in his failing industry, all while blaming others for his woes.

    I suppose a young Ronald Reagan could have remained in Dixon, IL. He probably could have found work in a sporting goods store. But, I doubt he would have become President.

    Sometimes, life is what you make of it.

    Reagan is an American success story - a true realization of the American Dream. Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are too.

    Starman is just a bitter, prematurely old man who takes no personal responsibility for his own life. It's sad, and nothing will change for him until he realizes this.
     
  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I took no shot at his father.

    Any father would help his son get started in his career if he could.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Have we shown that a different policy would have brought about better results?

    Or that it is/was exclusively a Reagan/Republican policy?
     
  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    "We're taking down the surrender flag that has flown over so many drug efforts; we're running up a battle flag."

    www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=42671#axzz204Ksoltz

    https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=87603

    In addition to the huge budget increases for interdiction, the Reagan Administration upped mandatory minimum drug sentences by a factor of magnitude.
     
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